August 29/ 2016


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Today's  Quote  August 28-29/2016

“Only by joy and sorrow does a person know anything about themselves and their destiny.

They learn what to do and what to avoid.”
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Kell's hiring his house keeper for its job???
Really!!! In a time when you are getting rid of jobs you allow Tom Kell's to hire his house keeper for a seasonal job now he he is trying to find a full time permanent job for her!!! Really come on Mayor Barlow please don't go one step forward and three steps back. Put an end to this bullshit, how can you expect people to support you when you allow this time of hiring on your watch!!
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16

Living in Madison County
Can someone please answer me this question???? How can the Clerk of the Oswego County legislature "Wendy Falls" live in Madison County???? What's wrong with that picture?
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16

College is back.
My son and I had the misfortune to drive down Bridge Street at midnight last night. I was appalled. Dozens and dozens of drunk , staggering, and puking college kids, yes kids....responsible adults don't act that way, all over the street. Water Street was a mess, as was Bridge up to West 5th. Maybe Mayor Barlow should turn his eye to this mess. Had to be 100 drunken pukers in front of the strip club. Makes me ashamed to live here. What happened to the nice little town I grew up in? Come on Mayor, fix this mess........please.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16

Fulton Fire Dept Working
I was in shock today. Drove down fifth Street and seen the firemen painting the fire hydrants.
Had to go around the block and make sure,yes they were and sweating even.
Yahoo,finally out doing something.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16

scratching the surface
The post of the comment, "Chase's income disqualifies him from OFD Chief's job?" was on to something I believe. Chase has many of his fellow fireman working for him, makes you wonder if that is what creates the overtime. Call in sick so you can spray Napalm of Chase, or plow for Chase or run over college kids with Chase, either way you are making the extra buck and the city taxpayer gets the F---K. You are right it would be interesting to play follow the money, good job for some intern at the Comptrollers Office to really take hard loss at the payroll and absentee records and see if they hit trifecta.
As far as chief it wold just make life easier for all the guys to have the boss of both jobs right at the same location. Might also save us as taxpayers money because Chase might shave a little off the bill next time he poisons the parks if he is using the city phones, and help. Wait that was done before by a local police thief, boy that ended well for all concerned didn't it.

Here is a big shout out question to the Operating Engineers Union and or the Laborers, is Chase paying prevailing wage on all this government work he does? Seems like with all the guys out of work they would have an interest in this business.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16

Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?

Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16

Stolen......and Thank you!
Thanks to the cowardly thief who made off with a 28" tall resin fairy statue from our porch on August 17th! It was quite expensive to purchase (GOOGLE the term if necessary), and meant a lot to my wife!
Mommy: your little angel didn't FIND it and bring it home to you as a gift! IT WAS STOLEN!
Honey: Prince Charming didn't buy it for you as a gift! IT WAS STOLEN!
Larry, Darrel or the other brother Darrel: The freaki'n thing is resin/plastic, and won't bring you any dope scratch for scrap metal!
If you (the thief) have an attack of decency and decide to make it reappear, we will be grateful and not pursue it any further.
Oswego (and the new NORTHERN NORTH SYRACUSE)Luver
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16







Today's  Quote  August 27/2016

“I think I don't regret a single 'excess' of my responsive youth-I only regret, in my chilled age, certain occasions and possibilities I didn't embrace.”

Henry James



Chase's income disqualifies him from OFD Chief's job?


With municipal contracts in 3 different states Chase doesn't need the OFD pension especially the insurance. If you base his pension amount on his level of dedication and work contribution to the OFD his pension pay out should be around $120.00 a month. When does he find time to fight all those raging fires in Oswego, saving babies and grandmothers, when he's working out of state? Just exactly what necessitates all the overtime to begin with, besides greed and corruption?? mmm? How can he possibly find the time for overtime? LOL I wonder what would happen if you compared his OFD time sheet to his out of state work schedule? Do you think you'd find some embarrassing overlaps? I wonder how well his employees are insured assuming any of them work full time? They should check out their legal options. Seems like their insurance for a high-risk job should be substantial. 

This latest contract "awarded" to Chase by Republican politicians to one of their cronies is "business as usual" in Oswego Co.


P.S. Chase proclaims the safety of known carcinogens in minute amounts yet how safe are the employees who are repeatedly exposed to these chemicals and in much higher concentrations? Time to see a specialist boys. You need blood work done a.s.a.p. Don't worry they won't be looking for illegal drugs.


Herbicides To Be Used Against Invading Water Chestnuts

                                                                                                                                                       August 27/16


College pukes are back

Traffic is now 5 to 10 times heavier than it has been since May.

Our Quiet neighborhoods all summer long are now bursting at the seams with loud, obnoxious, drunk students.

Our side streets barely had any parked cars all summer,  now long time residents can't even find a parking space near their homes.

Now the police are being called for ignorant college pukes parking ACROSS the sidewalks, loud under aged rowdy parties and drunks.

We wake up in the morning to our properties littered with red cups, paper plates, beer cans and bottles.

Some of these drunks puke, piss and shit on our properties.  Some drunks walk into neighbors houses, thinking they are walking back into a party they left earlier.

Or pass out on lawns, porches, etc...

Thanks to our city government for allowing all of this shit, bordering on harassment.

Fed up "Townie".

                                                                                                                                                        August 27/16







Today's  Quote  August 26/2016

"The hardest thing in life is to know which bridge to cross and which to burn"
David Russell

Cahill Bldg
All Osha fines are payed by the contractor unless their is some sort of deal agreed upon between him and owner of the property owner also I was just recently in Oswego and was interested in the work being done to the outside of the building the stone is what called here in Chicago blue stone it shales easily but is good looking the work that was done on the south wall was poor at best I have been repairing buildings of masonry structure for 50 years and am what is called a tuck pointer not a bricklayer same international but different unions tuck pointers repair and bricklayers build.
                                                                                                                                                   August 26/16

A quick buck is all they are interested in. None of the Pauldines have any skill except for bullsh!tting and massaging young boys.

Let the Young Bucks Have a Job
So is the Pres. of the OFD union going to keep 9 or recommend ) to keep the young recruits that went through training (who’s cost ) and retire the older ? or, keep the greed going on until some 30 year or more decides to call it a day . The milking will run, until the brakes are put on !
And the Mayor is the person who decides who is going to be chief, not the OFD!
                                                                                                                                                   August 26/16





Today's  Quote  August 25/2016

“Have you ever noticed there is never any third act to a nightmare?

They bring you to a climax of terror and then leave you there.”

 Max Beerbohm quote



Foot in Big Mouth

Gerachi put his arrogent foot in his mouth on TV after vote on cuts. He said if he has 2 fire personel in the boat and a call goes out, they are in trouble manpower wise. Well thanks dumb ass for your comments on national TV, get rid of the boats !

What an asshole and he works for us ! Are you kiddin me !

Can anyone explain why most of the firemen are fat and out of shape ? Heart attacks waiting to happen ! Oh forgot about all the food runs. Pack your lunches like most people do fatties ! Get on the tread mills instead of washing and waxing your personal vehicles and motorcycles on duty ! Wash and wax your equipment like you are supposed to !


 Fire Marshall Bill

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16




Finally, Oswego State getting audited Thursday!

In response to today's post "Finally, Oswego State getting audited Thursday!"


Here is my comment-


"No surprise for those of us who know homunculus Debbie Bollettieri Stanley best.  She has no ethics or integrity.  She can run but she can't hide.  The auditors are finally going to catch up with her and her cronies just like they did President Smith at SUNY Upstate.  They will all be exposed and packing their bags in disgrace soon.  Can't wait to read those headlines.  It is too long in coming!"

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16




Mayor Barlow Creates City of Oswego Poverty Reduction Steering Committee

Maybe they can find honest employment for the  Syracuse Ave. hooker.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16




This is a great day for Oswego. Someone, Mayor Barlow to be exact, and the Common Council actually demonstrated that they can defeat the likes of the OFD who, with their chief thief, McCrobie, have been blatantly stealing money directly from the tax payers. I only pray that the FEDS ARE CONTACTED so they can take a close, close scrutinizing look at the books at the OFD and have that bastard McCrobie arrested or at least FIRED for the crimes he was the overseer of. In typical sociopathic, greedy fashion, he said he might consider resigning so that it may help the others, the lying worm. He is trying to save his ass so HE CAN RUN AWAY to his retirement and disappear, a typical coward move after he was caught 'dead in thew water.'

Next in line should be the landlords who are, in OFD fashion doing the same thing, blatantly stealing from the tax payers. Oswego has turned into a Rescue Mission, two out of five on Medicaid. To eliminate the Code Enforcement is putting the fox in the henhouse. All Common Council members who are landlords should be required by law to recuse themselves from any issue involving Code Enforcement and rentals, etc. They are common thieves too. 

The people of Oswego should remember when Dick Atkins ran for Mayor, and his chief concern was the illegal padding of the overtime & retirement, etc., of the OFD who, he also said, was grossly overmanned. He was laughed at and was met with scorn and hatred, losing the election to Gosek who, he also said, was going to to trip himself up by his own perverted actions. He was met with more hatred but he was right again.  It just goes to show how many idiots there are in Oswego who commit the crimes and the equal amount of idiots who believe in them. 

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16




Fire Department "Perfect Storm"

The circumstances for the exposure and demise of the padding and overstaffed costly fire department came at the right time. In April 2014, the Fire Department wanted to purchase another over priced ambulance and sent the request to the mayor and council for consideration. At that meeting's public session, the mayor and council (Barlow was a councilor at that time) were handed numerous spreadsheets and grafts of how the OFD was padding their retirement with un-necessary overtime and there was a proposal to reduce the OFD by 14 people and a recommendation to replace the incompetent Fire Chief. There was no action taken on the information that was provided, even though the information was taken from the treasures office and was extremely accurate. The mayor at that time was Gillen and had no guts to correct the situation that was placed at his feet. McCrobbie also got a copy of all the information provided, but yet failed to react to it by stopping the situation and actually managing the department.

Fast forward 2 years, and now Mayor Barlow, faced with a million dollar loss in revenue had the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing! He pulled out those spreadsheets and graphs, did his own investigation and realized he needed to act on, and correct a situation, that had been festering for several years. This information along with the revenue reduction allowed him to take the correct path, and he stood his ground and did the right thing....for that I give him a lot of credit.

He still has more to do as far as putting in a new chief that should be selected for the outside with a contract that does not allow a repeat of the actives that cause this "perfect Storm". In the long run, the OFD shot themselves in the foot by being such greedy pigs.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16



Lets Look at Some Math

       Four Ambl. person per shift (24 hr. ) which means another four personal( Follow my math )  on the next  shift ( which would be  day three and four) another four people ( so at the moment we are up to eight ) so on the fifth an sixth day  another four personal ( that equals  twelve  personal at $80,000.00 per year )  ( $ 80,000.00 x 12 =  $ 960,000.00  and this does not include overtime, benefits, uniforms, food , training, union dues,  Ambl. costs, payroll costs,poster costs, tee shirt costs,boat costs, 4 WD truck W/plows cost, bringing TWO fire Trucks where ever the Book Mobile goes) !  Sounds like one mill. brought in,  $ 1.5 mil  paid out   ! Why not cut the ambl .corp and SAVE THE TAXPAYERS  $ 1,500,000.00 per year! I am sure the taxpayers would like it and the payroll dept. would like it also !  

   And this just in! Taxes would not go up !  What a new concept, cutting waste !

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16




Firemen's Families Meal Tickets?

Are the taxpayers of Oswego also paying to feed the firemen's families on top of their ridiculous salaries? The reason I ask is this, they all eat take-out meals 3 times a day (times 2 shifts - that's 6 shopping trips a day) AND buy groceries? When was the last time they answered 6 FIRE calls a day? How many groceries are actually consumed at the firehouses and how many groceries go straight home with the firemen? As far as their excuse as to why they need to shop for food (6 and more times a day) using the fire dept. vehicles is this; "in case there's a fire we're already in the fire engine". This is pure bullshit. STAY AT THE F*CKING FIREHOUSE where you are paid to be, send one of the "trainees" to pick up your families groceries and you'll have NO need to use such an unbelievable, lame-ass excuse. The food that doesn't go straight home at the end of every shift can also be cooked by the same trainee. That's how they did it for generations. It will also save you all those embarrassing photo encounters that necessitate your hiding the FD vehicles behind the Price Chopper.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16




Mayor Barlow

Just would like to congratulate Mayor Barlow for the positive change and making the hard decisions that know other had the balls to do, but they all knew what was going on. Now to keep the momentum going you need to tax rental properties as a business , because that is what they are. They don't need to be taxed as say a Walmart or price chopper but certainly higher than residential owner occupied property, that would truly show how committed you are to turning around this city. Please look into this possibility. Another thing I truly think you need to look into privatizing the ambulance service. There are so many things that could and should be done differently, but honestly you have made a nice start!

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16





Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?

Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.

Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.

So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.

Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.

7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys

So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.

Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen?  Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall  telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.

There's something really wrong going on here.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16



Oswego tax payers and Oswego fireman

Oswego tax payers and Oswego fireman and friends and family should thank god for the good sense of Barlow and council and start looking at the real Devils in this whole fireman issue MCCROBIE and GERACI they are the real culprits and should be held accountable. Don't be looking to play the blame game this falls squarely on their shoulders! They both should be fired ! Any body with half a brain can figure that out, come on people!!

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16



Cahill Building

  How come does it seem that when the city of oswego, ny has a low grade contractor, they ( the contractor ) do not go by the state and fed. rules of safety ! And if OSHA comes in for a violation, who pays? the contractor or the city (taxpayers ) ? Osha was called in for nine violations on that building, but do not know the outcome as of yet !

   Amry Corp. was also never notified of work next to the Oswego river! We are truly Hazzard County ! Cannot wait for the fines to start rolling out !

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16






Today's  Quote  August 24/2016

“The two women exchanged the kind of glance women use when no knife is handy.”
Ellery Queen

House for sale
When I first found the Oswegonylion site online I formed a very negative view, most submissions were always complaining about one thing or another or badmouthing each other and I often questioned how true the submissions were, now after just three years here I have found most to be true, I could write a book on what it has been like, your entire home and family enjoyment depends on who lives around you and more importantly the people right next door, I have learned that the city has no control or real concern over code enforcement, they make it appear at first action is being taken but after that no follow-ups and your problems just compound until you decide like us to place our home for sale and leave the city, When you have six to eight rental houses all within one block and landlords renting to who-ever, you will have constant police calls, vandalism and alot of drifting trash down your street, children left unattended playing in the streets as you count the near misses as traffic speeds by. I had always supported our fire department even with such negativity here, then to hear the fire chief admit that members had been padding pensions, but now it has stopped and to say " Oswego will pay some extra money". WOW, to say it was all legal is now questionable. I now understand the negative views so many share and I am thankful that this site exist, it is our only way to voice our concerns, people just do not come together like the old days, our power as citizens was lost when we stopped knowing our neighbors, it only exist when we do, its hard to send our elected officials a message now days, like if everyone flushed their toilets at exactly eight O' clock a message would be sent directly to our sewage plant, same with all services, we do have great power when we come together and this site is our only option to communicate our thoughts and feelings, so THANK YOU Mr. Harrington for providing and maintaining this site.
                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16


About Time
Would like to commend mayor Barlow and council members for their efforts with the fire department cuts. I believe also the boats should go. We have the Coast Guard as well as marine patrol for the Sheriffs Dept. which has a boat at the coast guard station as well. Also remember all the local volunteer fire depts. surrounding Oswego who are always ready willing and able to support any situations as needed. We also have great ambulance companies that can more than service our needs and should't we try and grow local ambulance companies for more jobs ? Do we need 2 fire stations ? Also you need to establish a overtime equalization policy for the firethieves ASAP and get rid of Mcrobie, he's a disgrace to our community !

Now we need to focus on the City School District. They also have been out if control for many years and the school tax burden is killing Oswego. It too must stop.
The teachers aids must go and make the overpaid teachers do their jobs like they used to. Restructure the heirarchy that is ancient. We do not need Principals and asst's. at each school. There are more sensible ways to manage and get with the times. Very top heavy and costly.
Contract out all the cafaterias like many businesses have done and you'll save tons of money and no benefit payout. Get rid of hall monitors and put the teachers back out there like it was before all these unnecessary jobs were added at taxpayers expense plus benefits and retirement.
School security can be contracted out easily at a substantial savings to taxpayers.
School bussing can be contracted out for major savings as other districts do.
Building grounds and maintenance can be contracted out as well.
Grow the small businesses !
Board of ed building lots of employee's with not a lot of work to do, spend some time there you'll see. It's sickening !
School District you are next. A citizen committe is in the process of being formed to look at, study, and audit the school system and with the freedom of information act you can't stop them. Enough is enough. Instead of cutting activities and raising taxes more, streamline your system and get out of our pockets. You have become extremely fat and lazy and the whole district needs a major overhall.

You've contributed heavily to the demise of Our City !

Tea Party Time !
                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16

                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16

Money Draw
Real glad to see the senior members showing no support for the new hires, instead MILK that pension scam ! Wow, what a brotherhood. The next fire chief does not fall in a pecking order, MAYOR CAN PICK ! And it can not be chase, because one income is greater than the other. And the MAYOR can Hire and Fire at their own mind ! Goodbye mini me !
                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16

Menter Handle Calls
They Shot themselves in the foot! They told Menter ( drag boat queen races ) that they would not be taking calls. Menter did not skip a beat, which shows that the overpriced ambl. is not needed! Wow, another 1,500,000,00
Savings. That almost brings it up to $ 3,000,000.00 PER YEAR SAVINGS FOR THE TAXPAYERS PER YEAR, AND WITH NO TAX INCREASE !
                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16

                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16

I was two years behind that a$$hole in highschool (1962). He was in love with himself back then and just as full of bullsh!t. He is the one who showed Gosuck how to get around the charted and boost the mayor’s pay to 45K.

Finally, Oswego State getting audited on Thursday!
Five months ago tax payers and staff at the college were complaining about the cronyism and hidden spending of president Stanley. It took five months but finally auditors are looking at the books - but does the staff and tax payers know about it?

No - the meeting is being hidden at Oswego's building at the Metro Center in Syracuse.

The meeting is this Thursday, August 25. All taxpayers have a right to go! Oswego College is a state school.
                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16

I think the fire chief should be fired for doing what he did with the over time. Jumping over the young one's. Or make him pay all that over time back to the city. The 15 firemen can thank your chief for the layoffs.
                                                                                                                                                   August 24/16

Geraci should get the axe at the same time.







Today's  Quote  August 23/2016

Hang 'em first, try 'em later.
Roy Bean

Can You Hear All That Racket Outside?

It is not the weeping and wailing of the firemen.

It is Patty Ritchie and Mario Cuomo fighting it out

to see who can be the first to come up with a million bucks

to keep the 15 firemen on the payroll for another year.


Re: Bobby Wheeler
Thank you, Mr. Oakes, for exposing what a ____ no good, lying, deceitful, heartless cop that Bobby Wheeler was (still is?) Without your filing, we - The People wouldn’t have known that he lied during a pre-trial Hearing. We wouldn’t have known that he, supposedly, interviewed a “probable suspect”. (There are no notes so how can one be sure he even questioned Dan? Are we supposed to take his word for it? PPfftt, he LIED UNDER OATH) We wouldn’t have known that he was a facilitator of the MA inmates’ statements (including chicken).
I sure hope that old man still doesn’t work in the OCSD.
                                                                                                                                                   August 23/16

Death of Common Sense.
What's sick is Bohrer tells officers that if they look in to the report made by a new haven video clerk. As a van was stalking her. They'd find info on the van. How funny is it he knew someone was stalking another clerk have ocsd, ever looked in to this. Problem not.
                                                                                                                                                   August 23/16

OFD Brotherhood
Nice to see the firechimp and pres. of the OFD UNION care More about the ones that have put in their time and are on the milk, when the new members should be greeted and protected ( and cheaper and have had the schooling ). I will bet that if the OFD and the pres. mouth could have their way, they would call up their own dead to vote ! They had a great thing handed to them on code enforcement, and they could not get off their a$$ to show that they could move faster than paint drying
                                                                                                                                                   August 23/16


Be Careful What You Wish For

If they get rid of McCrobie the next one in line is Chase.

                                                                                                                                                      August 23/16


I does not necessarily have to go that way but it probably would. As well liked as he is they would probably arrange for his office to go up in flames with him in it.







Today's  Quote  August 22/2016

“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.”
Thomas Jefferson

200+ years ago Jefferson predicted Ozwego.


A Partial List Of Businesses That Support The Blood Sucking Oswego Firefighters

A Plus Sunoco (West Utica St)

Cheap Seats
Colonial Laundry
Cutting Board/Clubhouse Tavern/Spencers Alley
Geno & Joes Pizza
Gibbys Tavern
Greens Ale House
Hair Gallery
LaGrafs Pub
Pizza Villa



I believe, as do others,

that we should keep the sixteen newest firefighters

but only after we get rid of sixteen of the fat old drunks on the department, starting at the top.


Firefighters FaceBook page
Check out the Oswego Firefighters Facebook page ..What a joke ..Stop riding around getting your snack foods and hiding behind Price Chopper ...Over the weekend you were joy right riding on the lake in your new recuse boat ..I know because I was out there fishing and watching you ..Get rid of the boat ( we have a Coast Guard station ) Get rid of the ambulance, We have Menter ..And stop all your BS...You'll get more respect from the community...And stop padding your salaries....Most people have to work 40 years and then have to pay for their health insurance when they retired...The taxpayers are sick of all your whinny...Lets not forget about the Chiefs big raise and the firefighter who stole all that money and KEPT HIS JOB .....So deal with it
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16

Oswego fire department wants you to help them out. Where they there when they where going to layoff half of the DPW no.
August 20-21/16
They were there allright. They actually had the balls to walk through the DPW garage and tell the fellas that were there what plows that they would be driving that winter when the cuts happened. Talk about insult to injury after Smith let McCrobie and the Council slash his budget to fund their o/t.

Wasn't there a drone copter purchased with city funds (for training purposes) not to long ago? Where is it? I heard that the heroes were playing with it over the harbor and it went in the drink. Too bad. I was looking forward to arial footage of there fire stopping skills.
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16

I heard they were using the drone to spy on women, particularly college girls, around the city and they were keeping a collection of pictures they got doing it. I think all this support from local unions is a big joke. Where were these unions when the heroes were stealing jobs from other city departments. They put the entire Code Enforcement Department out of their jobs. This summer they stole weed and grass trimming jobs from the DPW.

Why was Menter answering all the ambulance calls? The fire department entered a crew in the dragon boat race this weekend. Probably the rest of the department was at Breitbeck cheering them on.

Does anyone know if certain employees are still being paid out of the water/sewer fund? If so, is that reflected in the proposed budget, or is it one way to get under the 5% tax cap? Maybe they can figure out a way to pay the firemen out of the water/sewer fund and raise the bills again!
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16

OZ and the OFD
The city of Oswego is not an employment agency. Municipalities should not be competing with private enterprise. There is no reason to keep the ambulance service. Menters is here and will provide this service for free. OFD has out pigged themselves.
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16

3:1 management
1ass chief, 1 captain, 1 lieutenant to 10 fireman. That is what you call top heavy does anyone agree?

But in the name of fair is fair notice no one seems to notice thAt part of the tax issue is those in houses and live here pay through the a$$. While the slumlords pay a fraction of what would right if they are not part of the political machine or should I say the grease in City Hall. So the likes of which unfortunately for the rookies are the ones who own bars and houses which are under assessed and again the old guys screw the young guys.
And Joe Six-pack take sit in the A$$ coming and going.
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16

No Oswego Ambulance Calls
It just proves how capable Menter is of replacing the heroes permanently.
While you are at it mayor Barlow lets get rid of the ambulance service.
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16


Board of Education Spending More Taxpayers With No Clue
Wake up ! 1, all clubs at middle school cut! 2, all six tex support teachers cut ! 3, six NEW ADMINISTERS Hired, 4, tex teachers rehired, but under a different title . 5, board of education told painters to go to Leighton school to paint and make changes, but 6, go back to the ED Building, 7 , making room for the tech. dept., they want to put the new tech dept. where the main office is now! So more money being spent and wasted by the Board of Education and the Supt. Goey ( like the worm, bowerey boys ).
And when it comes to a football team, if you do not have 50, no team. But I guess that it is more important to fund sports , than it is to have English, math,tech,home skills,health,etc…
Once again, Oswego shows it’s lack of good common sense, but support sthe pay check grabbers, and that includes the Oswego Fire Dept. Bad contract goes to the New York State of Labor, I am calling, you people should also, after all, you know how phones can be left on hold!
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16

Councilor VanBuren
Hey Eric, be sure you vote in favor of the OFD layoffs. Your constituents can no longer afford the fire department.
                                                                                                                                                   August 22/16


Gosek on Probation

How arrogant is this a$$hole driving in his van yacking on his cell phone. Same on me for not pulling over and calling the cops. I am going to nail this motherfu**er and his activity. Didn't you learn your lesion from Buck in jail? You should be a model citizen you pervert- who the hell is your probation officer? anyone know who that is let me know I will give a statement.

                                                                                                                                                      August 22/16

I think by now he is off probation. He was probably just calling one of his teenage girlfriends.









Today's  Quote  August 20-21/2016

“There is nothing so strong or safe in an emergency of life as the simple truth”
Charles Dickens

YES! I feel safe!
You gotta check out the OFD Union Facebook page. Too funny, the way they are scrambling to prevent the cuts!

Time has come to trim the "fat" from this department! We do not need a department with so many personnel. Time to make them work an 8 hour day and 40 hour week like the rest of us! No more sleeping on the job. Who gets paid to sleep while at work? Cops? DPW? You? Me? No! Does anyone here think workers at Novelis or at one of the nuke plants get to sleep while they are working? Hell no! No way are you gonna tell me that a person who is sleeping is gonna respond to a fire faster than someone who is already awake! No more second jobs either. The OFD work schedule is designed to do one thing and that is to allow them to have second jobs and or businesses. Get rid of the ambulance service too!
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

Oswego fire department wants you to help them out. Where they there when they where going to layoff half of the DPW no.
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

Oswego governments bible found The CIA’s Simple Sabotage Field Manual: An Everyday Guide To “Purposeful Stupidity’ (1944) |

                                                                                                                                                      August 20-21/16

Putting Lipstick on a pig !
I have been reading the news quite regularly and of course, have noticed all of the State money being thrown at good old Oz. Senator Ritchie working her butt off and Governor Cuomo giving the powers to be all of that money to fix up Oswego. Our family is beating the door down to get out and I do not see many families beating the door down to get in. All you have to go is go on the real estate property websites to see all of the houses for sale and being up for sale for some time. Scroll down the pages and get a gander at the taxes and Oswego City School District ratings. Two out of five stars. Nice. I am sure young productive families are just dying to move here. They probably could not give these homes away. What a waste. I am not ignorant to all of the cronyism and nepotism here at all either. I get it. Skip the lipstick. I am signing this Born & raised here, this is totally sickening. I remember when it was a great place to live and raise a family.
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

I was listening to my scanner tonight and noticed that our FD isn't using any of the ambulances. Menter Ambulance is being sent on all ambulance calls. Is this a decision by our Fire Chief to say "screw you" to the Mayor and common council ? Supposedly we make a lot of money by running the ambulance but now we aren't making any money. If the Chief doesn't want to send the ambulances out then sell them and cut back even more on the personnel. I hope the Mayor and common council follow through on their proposed cuts we need the tax break to keep living here.
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

The hardest part about being an Ozwego Fireman is keeping the wives from finding out about the girlfriends and the girlfriends from finding out about the other girlfriends.
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

Playing with their hoses is about the only thing they are really good at.

Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Oswego County legislator: No need for independent review of Heidi Allen investigation.


-Mrs. Duells file was tampered with
-Jenn Wescott...said she lied on the phone call but her poly says she did not. She goes to the cops and tells them that she was told what happened to HA. She was allowed to sign a statement that she lied and she just walked away..after giving them some of the most important info about the case.
-DA Oakes said Gary and his girlfriend took her body to MA on April 3rd, 4th or 5th. But on the 3rd neighbors testified to hearing an argument from Gary's trailer. Two deputies testified they watched his trailer on the 4th and 5th and the car did not leave, only for short periods of time,
- Steen gets a text..Heidi CIAO
- Bivens changed his story about the van and even told them it was the right make but wrong color...inn court he changed his mind again.
-Women told OCSD she saw a pure white van at the D&W at the time of the crime. JW and J. Steen both mention that MB had a white van...why didn't they go to the DMV?
-Jen W. said she didn't know any of them then but went to Florida with Roger and also asked a friend not to tell anyone about it.
-Several people say that all 3 of the new suspects said they killed her.
- Judge King dis credited everything new witnesses said and even said the ph call was not credible...this takes JW out of the picture after she signed a statement saying she lied...makes King look good too.
-Absolutely no evidence at all linking either guy to this crime.
-Both brothers passed polys, JW failed hers and was left to walk away. They had the golden goose but were afraid she may tell them stuff that would prove GT is innocent.
-JW told them.."after 20 years I still have to tell you that there were two vans." How much HINT do you need?

----Let's face it, the republican party is stopping any new investigation, because what the were told by JW and others would make any LE agency investigate more. They don't want a law suit, it will make the political party look bad.

AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, THIS IS STILL AN OPEN CASE. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE FOOLING? Oh and there will be a federal investigation into this, the appeals court stated that some facts need to be looked at and there may have been laws broken....hang on, it's coming.
-Mike Bohrer received faxes about the case from the OCSD office.
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

Who Does the Council Really Represent?
Monday will tell the truth. Does the council represent their over taxed constituents or the greedy OFD?
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

In light of the titanic act of thievery to the hard working-minority-of tax payers in Oswego, the fire dept. has the balls to demonstrate as if they deserve more than they already have ripped off.
Everyone who is of sound mind regarding these issues of crime demonstrated for decades by the fire dept. and costing the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars, should demand that McCrobie absolutely be fired for what he and he alone was the overseer of. I am in shock that he has not been let go yet. If this was any other job and this foul act of illegally padding the retirements of the employees happened you would be terminated immediately. Lets hope this is not another case of…similar to the Wall St. bankers who stole billions of dollars, paid their fine and them got on with things as usual, with no one going to jail.
This is a blatant, greedy, selfish act directly against the tax payers and the Feds should be notified, perhaps by an outside party. McCrobie MUST BE FIRED.
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

I am sorry, I thought the OFD set up a exercise room, not a dining room, my bad. But I guess with all the driving around and the boat runs and meetings at wrights landing and breitbeck park can use up fuel and wear those tires down! I am sure that the taxpayers of Oswego, ny have no problem paying $ 500.00 per tire, per year ! Why not try to have the skinny guys drive the trucks and have the other guys roll out the hoses for a change.
Looking forward to see big tax cuts !
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16

Bobby Wheeler
Bobby Wheeler has a ton of explaining to do. But then again the DA and the Sheriffs do not seem to explain crap. Bohrer tells you in his interrogation. Not sure which cops are good and bad any more. Pretty sad you have a man like Oakes not intelligent enough to see the larger picture. Didn't Bobbys son play in the one man band back then in all the bars. He sure did. What is it you are afraid of Bobby? Was your son friends with any of the suspects. Or was it just you who played a direct part in this disgusting case? You see you ran from Lisa Peebles investigators and said. You want to arrest me, you want me to be the fall guy. What kind of non guilty cop runs? Try a guilty cop fears. You should fear. The right thing to do Bobby is explain what Bohrer means in his notes when he says. Wheeler's business is no good. What kind of business was it? Explain which cop was having cocaine symptoms on the stand, that Bohrer also wrote about. Sickening Bohrer seemed to be in the court room during Gary's trial. Very sick all of you are. Especially the DA, permitting this lie to continue. Sick to see the sheriff support a murderer as well. Let's talk about the Sheriff. If he says he had very little to do w this case originally. Then who is he to say who is guilty. Supporting your brothers bogus bull shit case. Is great brotherly love. Hope you all rot in hell. You all deserve nothing less.
                                                                                                                                                   August 20-21/16












Today's  Quote  August 19/2016

“I think we should take Iraq and Iran and combine them into one country and call it Irate.

All the pissed off people live in one place and get it over with.”
Denis Leary

Song Birds
To Wescott "The greatest thing about speaking the truth, Is you don't have to remember it." I agree Wescott or Petrowski need to explain where these missing texts are as well. Michael Bohrer says. " if you have more questions than you do answers the problems from with in." Wheeler also should start singing. He seemed to come up a lot also in Bohrer writings. Investigator Wheeler, you were never the fall guy. You made sure of that. You come up an awful lot in this investigation. Which one of you from the DA office faxed Bohrer parts of the investigation? And Why? Bohrer is correct the problems from with in.
                                                                                                                                                   August 19/16

They all look over fed and under worked.


                                                                                                                                                   August 19/16

Fire Marshall Bill
"I hope that Mayor Billy sticks to his guns and the common council sees the light, because the silent majority behind you". – Fire Marshall Bill

Well said F.M.B., but it is not the silent majority behind Billy, it is the noisy majority and any of those councilor's that vote against this reduction will be replaced next year, when they have to run for re-election. McCrobie needs to go and be replaced with someone out side the department. He is a drunken un-professional, that when in public sounds ignorant, and he dresses like he is going to the beach when attending public meetings. Last year he and his crew looked like a bunch of Hill Billie's when they were collecting money for charity at the forks of the roads. If they would have had clown make-up on, it would have been a perfect scene.
Billy, put a real chief in that knows how to manage a department, isn't a drunk, and can put a full sentence together without sounding ignorant.
Also remember, that 85% of the OFD lives outside the city, and pays no taxes here...they are all just takers.
                                                                                                                                                   August 19/16

Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
From Lisa Pebble's files: the Investigation of The Missing Heidi Allen Case

Fred McClean spoke harshly of their accusing Gary and Richard. He claimed they were innocent. Investigator Yeardon said, "how can you say this? You use to be one of us". Fred replied, Ya that is why I left the force". Detective Wheeler was also present.

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Kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth huh? At the bottom of this page is a signature and dated 8-28-96.
                                                                                                                                                   August 19/16

Another fire department issue
With over 30 years experience under my belt as a nurse, I have had to call ambulances hundreds of times. And let me tell you, when Oswego Ambulance responds, they are to a man arrogant and unfriendly. They ALWAYS come in with a chip on their shoulder like you just bothered them for nothing. Rude does not begin to cover it.
Menter Ambulance is ALWAYS cordial and efficient. They show great kindness to my many residents over the years, and always are top notch in their actions and abilities.
I cringe when I see Oswego pull up. It's their whole demeanor and attitude.
If you need an ambulance request Menter. You would be amazed at the difference.
                                                                                                                                                   August 19/16

Ya know, this winter parking ban crap is just that, crap! Not only is time being waisted trying to alleviate taxes during the meetings, but it has also shows that the clowns do not do anything outside of the meetings. Why hasn't each clown walked through their neighborhoods asking each and every homeowner what they think about the situation? So far, you have options A, B, C. Option A, no parking on streets, option B, alternate street parking, and option C, hand pick those who can purchase a permit for $125. The goal was to help clean the streets, whatever! Now, it will be ok for the chosen ones, as long as they pay for it! How does that help in keeping the streets clean? Hey clowns, I have an idea. Work on giving back to the tax payers instead of trying to reap more from them! This parking crap is not the forefront of Oswego's problems. The fact of the matter is, the few homeowners that show concern at the meetings is the few, not the many. Allow parking, alternate wasn't a bad idea. Homeowners that don't need to park in the street, won't! Those who have no choice, should be able to. This permit bullshit will be a farce. It will not help the problem, and the hand picked part? Give me a f***ing break! This gov't entity of ours is all about rejuvenating and trying to get people to visit our downtown. Have a question. You can't even walk down the 10' wide sidewalks, because there are tables with umbrellas, signs in the middle of the walk, and merchandise! You cannot walk down the damn sidewalks! And, if these places of business are granted these "perks", why shouldn't they pay for it? Want a table on the city sidewalk, how about a fee of $1000, for 3 mos. sounds fair.
                                                                                                                                                   August 19/16

The Emperor Has No Balls
To be fair I believe the artists have got at least one of the proportions wrong. His hands are actually much smaller.

                                                                                                                                                      August 19/16






Today's  Quote  August 18/2016

“When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before.”
Mae West

Firemen ripoff finally nailed them
Mayor Barlow Ends Fire Department’s ‘Abusive Overtime’ Practice – Oswego County Today

                                                                                                                                                      August 18/16

'Minor' radiation leak in FitzPatrick nuclear plant has gone unfixed for 4 years

A minor leak......isn't that like being a little bit pregnant?


                                                                                                                                                      August 18/16


Anyone who thinks they will notify the public when something serious happens is a fool. The public will find out after a significant number of them have been determined to have been exposed.

Fire Dept Cuts
Let me first state that any employee deserves a living wage including fire personnel. Their job is an important one and should be supported by the community. However, the criminal overtime rigging, overstaffing, job abuse, and of course, a drunken loudmouth chief is enough. Sooner or later the cuts will be made regardless of one’s view. It happens when the city goes broke under the illusion that only throwing money to the fire department will keep us from a post-apocalyptic world. Our city fire department is staffed at amounts far exceeding other cities similar in size, yet rack up hundreds of thousands in overtime. Why does that happen? That should be a matter of an investigation and you wouldn’t need Sherlock Homes on the case. The department’s view is that it’s simply doing what it was allowed to do for years by other administrations. Guess what, thanks for bringing it to their attention. I give Mayor Billy credit for finally doing something about a problem that has plagued our city. I believe he derives no joy out of doing what should have been done years ago when the goose that laid the golden egg died. Yes, Niagara Mohawk is gone along with it fair share of nearly 90% of tax revenue the city received. In addition, Hamill’s wonderful water deal has left one the wells dry, Bateman, well I don’t know what he did and neither does he. Only Tom Gillian mention that the west side fire station should be closed and could of had a shot at getting reelected if he did it. But alas, they failed whether through ignorance or laziness. Another argument is why should the fire department be the only one to receive the cut? I agree, so should other departments be considered for similar savings. Maybe chief Microbial knows other departments were waste is rampant, that still doesn’t make it right for the fire department to do it. They can put up all the signs the want and the “maybe we won’t make to your place” threat, but one fact remains, the people of this city can no longer afford it. In order for the community to support the fire department, the fire department must also support and be a part of the community. That includes the sacrifices that the taxpayers of the city have done for years after NM departure. Many of these problems are compounded by the fire dept. leadership’s arrogant, intoxicated, and abusive displays in public and private. I hope that Mayor Billy sticks to his guns and the common council sees the light, because the silent majority behind you. – Fire Marshall Bill
                                                                                                                                                   August 18/16

Explorers find 2nd-oldest confirmed shipwreck in Great Lakes


                                                                                                                                                      August 18/16

                                                                                                                                                   August 18/16

Body art does not indicate intelligence, or social status
People from all walks of life have tattoos, your judgement is messed up.
                                                                                                                                                   August 18/16

Death of common sense
Bohrer says he was at Hermie Jordals. Didn't Hermie have a relative that drove a white rusted van? Didn't Bohrer insist he was stranded on Green road due to his vehicle being down with training issues. So how'd he get from point A to point B? Didn't Jennifer say I can't believe after twenty years I have to tell you there's another van. It's out. Didn't steen say he asked Murtagh if he hauled a stolen van? Didn't Oakes say steen didn't confess to kidnapping Heidi but hauling a stolen van and disposing of her and the van? Didn't Breckenridge admitt stealing a van that did not run off Thibodeau property. That was there when Thibodeau bought the property? There's another van that Murtagh claims they picked up off Valley road in fernwood. Didn't Bohrer state to look in to the reports of a van stalking a video store clerk and you'd find the information on the van? Guess Oakes is to dumb to see the Sheriffs have had the wrong van for twenty two years that FBI testified there was NO link. But yes common sense in this case doesn't exist. The sheriff's believe it was all opportunity, while Bohrer ran down the road screaming he knew what happened to Heidi, call Bobby Wheeler. While Bobby ran from Lisa peebles investigators saying you want me to be the fall guy. I truly think Gary was their fall guy. Jennifer, Bohrer, Breckenridge need to be waterboarded until one tells the direct truth. Very lucky it's not my brother or sister. There seems to be no laws upheld in OZ. I'd hunt you all down. When the law doesn't do its job. Vengeance is the only way.
                                                                                                                                                   August 18/16







Today's  Quote  August 17/2016

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office




This bit of bullshit is being handed out a local businesses.

The fire department is joy-riding and shopping on your dime.

They are padding their pensions with the taxes your children will have to pay.

If you care about the taxes you pay, about the debt that will be passed on to your children just to support these thieves in their golden retirement you should

boycott any business that displays or possesses this document

If you know of a business that is displaying or handing out this bullsh!t send their name in and it will be posted.


OFD Pension Padding
Barlow has gone after the OFD for and illegally forcing younger members of the department to refuse overtime so senior members about to retire can get maximum retirement at the taxpayers expense. Now we need to see the State Labor Board come in and investigate.

                                                                                                                                                      August 17/16

Not in our lifetime. In the real world Geraci and McCrobie would be looking at jail time if this can be proven. Does anyone remember back about two years ago the State Comptroller was looking at the Fulton Fire Department for pension padding. This has been a flagrant screwing of Oswego taxpayers for decades but the Comptrollers Office never came any where near OZ. At the very least McCrobie and Geraci should be fired and the Comptrollers office should be investigated.

Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
"Thumper said that he, Roger Breckenridge and Michael Bohrer drove Michael Bohrer's white van to the store," Priest's statement said. "Thumper went in the side door

Notice that Steen mentions MB had a WHITE VAN. When the OCSD talked to him he said he was driving a short bed black pick up.

How could the OCSD investigators miss this in just a few days? DID they check DMV records?

There is an article that states MB worked with the FBI and the OCSD to help solve crimes? Is it true?

Is that why he wasn't investigated more. Does he know something they don't want to get out? Another person said the MB had his van that he used to scrap with fixed and lent it to him. If I can find that again I will copy and paste it.

They couldn't find another white van in a small area? People must have seen it before the crime. JW said they brought her to her house inn a white van.

Anyone besides me think this is a cover up, a crime or a favor for someone.

The only left for me to tell JW, you're lucky that isn't my brother sitting in prison. We all know you know and you lied. Only thing that has saved you up to now is the OCSD does not want this solved. If the FBI looks at your interrogation with Pietrowski one of you better start talking because no one except Oakes and Pietrowski believes you.
                                                                                                                                                   August 17/16

'Minor' radiation leak in FitzPatrick nuclear plant has gone unfixed for 4 years


                                                                                                                                                      August 17/16

Oswego Fire Departments Greed Finally Catches Up With them
Ten to fifteen years ago the senior men who were going to retire had to buy the overtime from the other men. The going price was somewhere between fifty and a hundred bucks per shift. The older guys got to pad there pensions and the younger ones had a tax free income. Then they decided they could just steal it from the newer men and tell them there time would come. Now it looks like it is going to bite them all in the ass.
                                                                                                                                                   August 17/16

Could not happen to a better bunch of people.

RE: What's with Oswego??
                                                                                                                                                   August 17/16

re: what's with Oswego
Welfare, {free money}, Hud, low income housing.
The owners of the hud properties sit on the common council. Hope that answers your question
                                                                                                                                                   August 17/16

Fingerlake CLAN members
It has been said on this site that 'EDUCATION CURES IGNORANCE' However in your case education is not effective on stupidity, to assign a social status based on tattoos is the same as basing it on color, race and gender. It must have been a wonderful site seeing families enjoying each other with your white sheets and pointed white hats, hard to see tattoos under a white sheet.
                                                                                                                                                   August 17/16

Mayor Barlow Ends Fire Department’s ‘Abusive Overtime’ Practice
Where was the Fire Chief during this? He makes $115,000 a year to prevent these things. Is it possible this could have been done without him noticing? Or was he drunk on a bar stool at the Bistro the whole time?
Wake up Oswego !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                   August 17/16






Today's  Quote  August 16/2016

“Of all the vices drinking is the most incompatible with greatness”
Sir Walter Scott

What's with Oswego??
After spending some time in the Finger Lakes, it's like a culture shock to come back to Oswego. There, everywhere you looked were normal people, families enjoying each other as well as their friends. Not once walking in the quaint villages did we see a single tattoo on anyone! What is it about Oswego that attracts so much low life????
                                                                                                                                                   August 16/16






Today's  Quote  August 15/2016

“If you do not think about the future, you cannot have one”
John Galsworthy

The mayor and council need to cut the : Fire Department, Police Department , and the DPW.

1ST - Their salaries are way to high, to ride around all day, burn fuel and grocery shop
2nd- The police ride around all day ,windows up and air on ,and waste fuel
3rd- The DPW, the garbage truck does nothing, ride around, burn fuel, and around 1:30 they all head for the eastside or westside resivors to hide till 2:30, then they all head to the barn day over. The eastside half go down 10th st. , the other half down Duer St. , its like a parade.
Those signs were probley made by the mayors new boy Shane Steipen , who seems to get all the citys business, for a hefty donation to his campaign.
In this city( MONEY TALKS AND BULL CRAP WALKS) AND HALF THE CITY PAYS no taxes ,just take a look in the grocery stores around the 5th of the month and look at the carts , mounded
You are supposed to be smart , so stick to your guns and just ( DO IT ). !!!!!!!!! They are already saying u don"t have the wavos to stick to your statements.
                                                                                                                                                   August 15/16


Sounds like a plan. add on west side firehouse, and fireboat.
Where will it be and when. That will get somebodys attention.
                                                                                                                                                   August 15/16

Firemen Lay-off was given to the Drunken Chief over a week before it was announced
The Drunken Incompetent Fire Chief (Jeffy-Boy) was advised by the mayor of the lay-off a week before it was announced, and this drunken fool passed it onto the union. They did start well in advance of the announcement and that is a fact.
A week ago I was told that the flyers (letters) that are on the counters of some local business in the city were made on the copy machine at the ES Fire Station. They made about 7.000 copies so each business would get between 250-300 copies. So you are right, the firemen are using city equipment (copier) and city paper to fund their campaign against the layoff. They must have learned that from the 1st Ward Alderman who was a ex-fireman and when he ran for office would send out his political flyers made on city paper on the city hall copier and would use the city mail meter to put the postage on them at our cost. I guess the low life scum bags are not making enough money to pay for their own campaign, but do know how to screw the taxpayers.
                                                                                                                                                   August 15/16

Fulton & Oswego Fire Dept's
So now the Cities(Fulton) will need to spend $$$$$$$$ of tax payer money to have someone come in and try to hammer out a deal.We have had enough of your BS, suck it up and get a deal in place to help the tax payers.How about MIllers when they closed and when Nestle went belly up??? Did you drag your lazy A**es up here to rally for all of those jobs.BIG NO.
Want a pat on the back? Yes when your out there fighting fires and saving lives your great, but the cost to keep all of you is way out of hand.
GIve me your yearly pay and perks,in turn take my no nothing Social Security and try to live on it. Come and live in my shack,drive my beat up car,go to discount stores and try to keep food and such in the house.By the way how many of you have a nice 100 grand house,2 cars,boat,rv and so on????? Come check my place out. Oh, I forgot this,I pay my Medicare premium of $100.00+ a month.$186.50 a month for a supplement to cover what Medicare won't and finally $50.00 a month for a cheap drug plan.Now do you get the picture why the gravy train has has got to derail finally?? Oswego,Fulton leaders here this "Enough is enough get some backbone and fight the dam unions".
                                                                                                                                                   August 15/16







Today's  Quote  August 13-14/2016

“In this very real world, good doesn't drive out evil. Evil doesn't drive out good. But the energetic displaces the passive.”
William Bernbach

Volunteers have always played a key role in the U.S. Military and Navy. During the War of Independence Baron von Steuben volunteered to train the Continental Army to operate as a fighting team - it worked. It has always been our country's policy not to have a large standing army and navy except in time of need - thus our Reserve and National Guard Forces. Today, these men and women combined with the regular army and navy melt together to form that team - taking professional leadership, on both parts, to make it happen. This is also the case with other types of organizations such as Fort Ontario, State Historic Site. Late in the 1980's the Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation (OPRHP) encouraged the formation of a friends group. With knowledgeable and stalwart leadership, through some rocky times, this leadership led the organization to a Memorandum of Understanding with OPRHP. This is where another Marine Corps slogan comes in: "We never promised you a rose garden." Today, the professional leadership and staff at the fort - "a few good men and women" - partnering with the Friends of Fort Ontario volunteers, can bring forth successful programming, like the Cemetery Tour, for the public's enjoyment.
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16


The OFD Show
The entire drama surrounding the "proposed OFD layoffs" is purely scripted. Barlow's an actor playing the part of a concerned Mayor who's hands will soon be tied by the majority on the city council. Barlow never had any real intention of laying anybody off. Little Bill may claim that he tried but the council wouldn't back him up when he was part of the dog and pony show all along. He's seeking re-election and is currently padding his legacy with a poorly written script. LOL This situation reminds me of his fake ethics committee and, BTW will they be weighing in on this subject?
O.C.Today lied in their article regarding the "hundreds of supporters" who were not firemen, relatives and personal friends when actually that's exactly who was at the "spontaneous" rally.

BOMB DROP: I was told that the flags, banners, signs, T-shirts etc. made in support of the OFD with YOUR tax money were ordered BEFORE Barlow's announcement!? Talk about a "spontaneous reaction in support of.." LOL, Maybe it's a "citizens revolt" or a "grass roots movement"? Apparently the OFD was spotted at businesses that make signs and T-shirts BEFORE the official announcement was made by Barlow. Coincidental? You tell me.

You Make Me Puke
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16

found this video on line of the Fulton Fire Chief
Have Hover Board will travel. This is what $90,000 a year will get you.

                                                                                                                                                      August 13-14/16

I must say at first I was not a fan of the new MayorBilly
Anything to deal with the Slumlords in this City SUCKS. They created Code Enforcement positions to take care of the slumlords.
Somehow Billy ventured out and is taking a firm stand on NO PARKING on the City Streets during Winter. It worked Great for Many Many Many Years. But the Slumlords hate it. if they didnt have 8 ppl in a small house all with cars it wouldnt be a problem. WHORES $

Now for the Fire Dept. Realizing that there is NO $ left. mainly because for years every other week the FD went to the city and needed more OT Money. Mayor after Mayor after Mayor gave it to them.

All the talk about padding the overtime: if you didnt know how it works. Ill explain;

A fireman declares he is retiring in 3 years. Then ONLY he or any other Fireman who declares the same. get the overtime shift. some of these guys make an additional 75,000.00 in overtime or more . It is Illegle and a crime. But no fireman who is left off the list will complain because they are told your day will come.
Maybe now the 3 newbys will speak out, what do they have to loose.
Maybe then the State will go back and make the greedy bastards pay it back to the city

Not a fan
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16

16 fire personal ( has 20 years in for full pension ) has a sal. avg. of $90,000.00 x 16 = 1,440,000.00 PER YEAR ! And now about the ambl. service, $ 1,500,000.00 No more trucks, no more city payroll ( taxpayers ), no more city employes doing the paperwork on these jerkoffs ! Limit cap on the firechief. If my math is close, we are talking about $ 2,940,000.00
PER YEAR! So tell me, Where does only $ 130,000.00 come into play ?
Are these aldermen that friging STUPID ?
This is almost $ million a year~ Has anyone asked why a firechief gets over $135,000.00 per year plus health, pension, plus free food and clothes ?
Has anyone asked ( aldermen ) why the city of Oswego, ny is a hiring hall for the police AND THE FIREMEN ? AND PLEASE, DO NOT GIVE ME THE 911 CRY !
So I guess that every firepersonal ( after 20 years ) grab that pension and get a second job, just to make sure they get ALL the MONEY GRABING that they can !
Thank you for being Proud of your GREED! And to think, that you would take a retirement check so that a rookie could start a new life in the city of Oswego, ny. Would like to see if you live inside the city, or outside where there are those vol. or want a bees firepersonal ! Maybe Mr. Walker was right, Live inside the frigging city limits !
$ 3,000,000.00 per year is a big savings.
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16



876 Syracuse properties added to flood zone, requiring costly insurance
These people should go to Mike Stanley. With the help of George Vendetti and Marty Webster he can make water front property appear, disappear or move up and down and side to side.

                                                                                                                                                      August 13-14/16


I hear he is a master at finding the wiggle room on a survey.


Something Fishy
Check out the photo on the front page of Friday's Pall-Times. Notice who's in the photo and who's not. Who's not in the photo is the overwhelming majority of residents who believe the OFD needs to be cut by 50%! Now look closely at the signs and banners. No hand written ones only ones that were professionally produced with obvious care and pre-planning, no spontaneous groundswell there. They also look very much like a union sponsored print job, the kind of signs you'd find at a picket line. Look at the same signs decorating the mostly green lawns of certain Oswegonians who never stopped watering their lawns. You'll find them on slumlord properties as well. In fact you'll find them in all the same places that you once saw Barlow for Mayor signs.These signs miraculously started to appear 12 hours after Barlow made his announcement. Did the "sympathetic" sign makers pull an all-nighter or were the slickly made signs and banners made beforehand?
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16

They had to know about ten days before the official announcement. Hell I did and forgot to put it on the site.

OFD Union boss Geraci

I worked in Atlantic City in the 80's. Our HREIBU local 54 union boss was also named Geraci. That Geraci (I think his first name was John or Jack) disappeared with 5 million belonging to thousands of casino hotel employees, me included. If it's him he'd be 75 years old now. Maybe a relative? I want my pension you bitch.
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16

So. when does the backbone start for the mayor,aldermen and get rid of a $140,000.00 per year Firechief ?
How much does the firechief in syracuse, ny make and to what population number ? What a bunch of phonies !
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16

Taking Action
Maybe a petition should be started to remove the current Firechief ,eliminate OFD ambl service and sixteen (over 20 years service ) Firemen!
                                                                                                                                                   August 13-14/16






Today's  Quote  August 12/2016

"Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them"

Jerry Falwell



Fire department

I watched the Channel 3 news tonight and noticed the lead story was about the FD protest outside city hall.

I was rather surprised that there were not more people.

If you take all the FD members and their families out of the group I don't think there was much public support.

I think that shows that the rest of our residents really need the tax break, it is getting way too expense to own a house in the city.

Does our fire department utilize help from neighboring fire departments like you see throughout the county?

Seems like the rest of the county works really well together to accomplish the needed work, does our department also ? If not, why ?

Glad to see we might be getting some financial relief in our tax bills next year.

                                                                                                                                                      August 12/16

Ozwego firemen do not play well with others.



Sixth Ward Quality of Life

Good question, what are Nicole and Lieman Reed getting from bringing a drug dealing prostitute into our neighborhood. What is the incentive that makes the cops turn a blind eye to this nasty situation? What goodies are Barlow and Van Buren getting that makes them ignore their constituents' plight? It is only a matter of time before a drive by shooting occurs. They must be getting a pretty hefty reward. Don't go out after dark on Syracuse Ave.

                                                                                                                                                      August 12/16



PIssing and Moaning OFD

Get rid of the ambulance service and all the pissers and moaners can go to work for Menters. You stupid asses, you have out pigged yourselves and the tax payers can no longer afford you. You are a bunch of entitled spoiled brats

                                                                                                                                                      August 12/16



Taxpayers Support Rally

I heard two firemen joking about how the signs and shirts they wore to there rally were paid for by the department. That means the taxpayers got screwed again.

                                                                                                                                                      August 12/16



Firemen Layoffs

Your not going to get much sympathy from the tax payers when your running around from store to store getting your subs ,wings and other snack foods ,and not having any regards to the poor tax payers in this poor city ..Remember the $20.000 raise the chief got , remember bumping up your salaries and retiring on over $1000.000. Remember joy riding in your new $500.000 rescue boat , Remember standing around on farmers market night making OT$. Remember leaving your vehicles running for long periods of time while your in Price Chopper ,Paul Big M , Remember all the OT money for the clueless job of Code Enforcement....NOW ITS OUR TURN TO REMEMBER ABOUT  YOUR BEHAVIOR ....Now your crying , Well deal with it ...You did this to yourselves....NO ONE TO BLAME EXCEPT YOURSELVES....The well is dry ..

                                                                                                                                                      August 12/16



Re:Quality of Life




                                                                                                                                                     August 12/16







Today's  Quote  August 11/2016

“About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends.”
Herbert Hoover

Town of Oswego water rates
I live in the Town of Oswego. We pay quarterly water bills based on usage to the Onondaga County Water Authority. I'm pretty sure that those of us on "city water" are all on meters as well. $57 must be the absolute minimum because mine is usually $65 and up depending on gallons per quarter.
Oh, and when I heard that they wanted everyone to conserve water, I laughed and got the sprinkler out. It's not like any of us will get a refund...

Southwest Oswego Senorita
                                                                                                                                                   August 11/16

Mr. Geraci
Mr. Geraci, thank you for being concerned for the taxpayers of Oswego,NY. I am sure that this has been on your mind since you graduated from High School ( which was where and where do you live now ? ). If this is such a safety conceren, I am sure you and the chief and the First, Second and Third LT. will take a cut in pay! And that all of your members will bring their own food ( brown bag )to work! Thank you for your cost cutting and job saving plans! I am sure that you are always thinking about the taxpayers first and your membership last !
                                                                                                                                                   August 11/16



RE: Sixth Ward Quality of Life

The question you should be asking is how are Nicole and her husband profiting from the drugs and prostitution in there slum properties.
                                                                                                                                                   August 11/16

                                                                                                                                                   August 11/16

Eight people on shift would be a safety issue for the men and the citizens of Oswego but he lives in a town with ZERO people on shift. He has put his family in great jeopardy. Geraci and his wife are unfit parents and should have their children taken away and put in the care of someone that lives in a safe community.
                                                                                                                                                   August 11/16







Today's  Quote  August 10/2016

"Good company in a journey makes the way seem shorter."
Izaak Walton

Seriously do they think us stupid

According to an interview with IAFF 126 President Geraci (not a city resident). "The potential layoffs, which would be based on seniority, could affect many young department members who moved to the city to start families, Geraci said."
We know better than to believe that people are moving into the city of Oswego for a job with the fire dept. look at the recent hires and Google search the address they are from outside the city. Plus it is clearly not an issue because anyone can live anywhere and be an employee, dept head, elected official.
But the line they lived here, like they immigrated to Oswego with the thoughts that Oswego, NY USA was the promised land is a stretch and and insult to Myself Archie Bunker. Even my meathead son-in-law agreed.
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Not only do they think you are stupid but they know how lazy the voters in Ozwego are. They will make up any story or tell any lie to get what they want. After the mayor has gotten all the publicity he can from this lets see just how many jobs, if any, are really cut. Maybe Patty Ritchy can come up with some money to pay the firemen so the city can kick another can down the road.

Exelon To Assume Ownership and Operations Of FitzPatrick
It's called kicking the can down the road.

                                                                                                                                                     August 10/16

Fire Department Reduction....About time

the mismanagement of the OFD has been going on for at least 10 years and has been the subject in letters to the editor and here on the Lion. There was no question that this department was mismanaged ten years l, but ago, but got much worst under that drunken chief in charge now. If the city would have government would have listened and paid heed to much documentation presented to them, this could have been a lot less painful, but the greed of this department and having a chief who is clueless on how to manage brought this to a head along with the loss of water revenues that finally pushed the city to look at the gorilla in the room..the greedy un-managed OFD. It is about time.....
I don't know how this statement could have been made:"The potential layoffs, which would be based on seniority, could affect many young department members who moved to the city to start families, Geraci said.",..... 85% of the firemen live outside the city of Oswego and dumb statements like that are not going to fly or make us feel sorry about this situation.... senior men in the OFD have been screwing the younger men for years...check your facts. Senior men get the OT and the newbies get nothing.
Too bad you can not lay off the men that live out side the city first and keep those that chose to support the city they live in.
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Sixth Ward Quality of Life Issues
Awhile ago someone posted that the Syracuse Ave. hooker had taken the trash out and moved herself away. Unfortunately, this is not the case. It seems the reason for her disappearance was that she owes her dealers $ and she received a severe beating to encourage her to pay up. She was hiding out because the dealers have threatened her children. Over the weekend the OPD were called to 218 Syracuse Ave. because the dealers returned to extract payment. Why is no one doing anything about this dangerous situation? Billly Barlow, do something. Eric Van Buren, do something. OPD do something, it's not like you don't know what is going on. And last but not least, Lyman Reed and his lovely wife, Nicole, she is your tenant, do something. Are you all waiting until someone is shot and killed or these children are harmed? You are all put on notice of this situation and will be held accountable.
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Why would you keep 15 firemen collecting , on avg $ 90’000.00 per year and have over there 20 years, which they can receive FULL PENSION ! Why not keep the new firemen at half the cost? A real brotherhood of a union, would support the new hires ! And , if you want to save and not worry about that “ summer scramble ” when our firemen go on vacation , two at a time and only for 7 days and if you get rid of the Oswego ambl. corp. you could have them go back as a fireperson and let Menter worry about the ambl. calls! That just about brings it with NO tax increase to the TAXPAYERS ! Wow, what a NEW IDEA !
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Viking Ship to visit Oswego, NY
The Viking Ship Draken Harald Harfagre is reported to be heading to Oswego NY from Sturgeon Bay, WI. It has been participating in the Tall Ships Challenge Great Lakes events since June. The Viking Ship organization has cut short its' scheduled itinerary by skipping the Duluth, Minnesota tall ship event citing that they cannot afford the high pilot fees that were unexpectedly placed on them when they arrived to the Great Lakes in June. They have held a public campaign to blame the US Coast Guard and Pilots for there costs and raised $140,000 through the Sons of Norway toward their costs. They are still claiming that they were not informed of US pilotage fees and regulations. We highly disagree.

Because of the great amount of misinformation and bold statements they are putting out to the media, we are releasing a press release to the media to dispute the Viking Ship claims. We wanted you to know our side of the story before they arrive in Oswego.

Please contact me if you have any questions,

Capt. George Haynes
Lakes Pilots Association
Potr Huron, MI
(810) 941-5152

                                                                                                                                                     August 10/16

American Great Lakes Pilots Press Release – August 8, 2016
American Great Lakes Pilots are surprised that the Draken Viking Ship Organization has decided to skip the Duluth Tall Ships Festival. To date, the American pilotage fees that the Viking Ship has incurred up to arriving at the Port of Green Bay total $79,000. The latest estimates with the vessel traveling at 8.5 knots speed bring down the total round trip transit costs to $145,000, very near the $140,000 that has already been raised from donations. If they leave Green Bay and head straight for New York they will incur costs of $38,000. We do not know how their initial sensational figure of $430,000 was calculated but they would have to consistently travel an average of 2.8 knots in both rivers and lakes to achieve such a cost.
The estimated attendance for the five Tall Ship events on the US side is 1.5 million. The foreign flag tall ships are the most popular at these events. After paying an entrance fee to each event, another $12 on average is charged per person for a dockside tour of the 10 or so participating ships. When you add up these fees, plus cruise fees of $65 to $150 per person and sponsorships of up to $45,000 per port, the total revenue collected by a foreign flag tall ship could easily exceed $1.5 million just in the US ports alone. They have already made stops in Toronto and Brockville, Ontario as well as Alpena, Beaver Island and South Haven, Michigan where they have collected fees for tours.
They are continuing to claim high pilotage fees and confusion that they were misinformed prior to setting sail from Norway April 26th as the reason they are skipping Duluth. The laws and costs were made very clear to the Tall Ships America organization and the Draken organization in a series of meetings and direct communications with the US Coast Guard and the pilot companies last fall and throughout the winter. The US pilotage regulations base their requirements on whether a foreign flag vessel is conducting commercial activity on the Great Lakes, such as collecting fees to attend events and providing tours for paying passengers, much like cruise ships. The Draken Harald Harfagre is certified as an oceangoing commercial cargo vessel with the Norwegian Maritime Authorities.
In October of 2015, the US pilot companies handling pilotage where the events are scheduled, sent estimates of $192,000 for the Viking Ship’s pilotage costs at the request of Tall Ships America Director, Patricia Lock, for their whole itinerary on the Great Lakes. That figure, based on 6 knots speed, was later revised downward by 15% after the new lower rates were published April 1st. In November the spokesperson of the Draken Expedition, Woodrow Wiest, acknowledged that pilotage was mandatory for the entire Great Lakes in an email circulated to all pilotage districts by the US Coast Guard. In addition, a meeting was held in Cleveland in February attended by Patricia Lock, the US Coast Guard Director of Great Lakes Pilotage Todd Haviland and all three US pilotage district presidents to discuss US pilotage rules and rates. It was made clear that there would be no exceptions to the US regulations for the tall ships.
Great Lakes pilots work for the American people and play an important role in the safety and protection of the largest body of freshwater in the world. Foreign vessels big and small
employ pilots to navigate the intricate channels and dangerous shoals to prevent accidents and environmental catastrophes.
We also protect the lives of those on board vessels and regret that we have been classified as useless, over paid and unnecessary in some media articles. The recent groundings of the tall ship Pathfinder, twice in the last 30 days, signify that hiring local pilots can be a good policy to insure safety. The groundings took place July 12th at Southeast Shoal in Lake Erie and August 3rd at Peche Island Light in the Detroit River. In both cases, the vessel was passing on the wrong side of a major navigational light marking a shoal. The vessel again narrowly missed grounding a third time in the Detroit River after being released August 3rd. The tall ship was heading outside of the safe channel but changed course quickly after being warned by a US registered pilot on a passing foreign vessel that they were in danger. The Pathfinder did not have a registered pilot on board and is exempt from pilotage requirements under Canadian law.
Over the last forty years, there have been frequent tall ship events held on the Great Lakes. Foreign flag ships that required pilots have regularly attended them and collected significant fees. They came and left without any public campaign to fund their costs. The Viking Ship organization cannot say that pilotage fees and misinformation is the reason for disappointing the people of Minnesota and Duluth when those people have already funded their pilotage costs.
Lakes Pilots Association
Port Huron, MI
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16


Lets ask the Firechief
Is HE( the firechief ) willing to take a paycut to save a young fireperson’s job? Are the firemen, who already have 20 years in and will receive full pension, are they standing up to the plate and retiring to save the new recruit’s job ? Does this mean that the firemen will NO longer follow the BOOKMOBILE around? Does this mean that the fire dept. will NO longer go out and get food, but will call in orders on the phone for delivery ( which would Save the taxpayers money ). And I still wonder who pays for there food ! Time to learn what a lunchbox is!
Why should the city keep $90,000.00 ( with over 20 years in ) and lay off $ 45,000.00 per year firepersonal ?
$90,000.00 x 15 = 1’350’000.00 ( per year) vs. $45,000.00 x 15 = $ 675’000.00 ( per year ) Heck, I just saved the taxpayers $ 675’000.00 ( per year ) . Not including harbor fest,firechief greed and so on !
And think about what could be saved if the TAXPAYERS dropped the fire dept. ambl. service and went with menter 100 % Maybe another $ 1’500’000.00 per year ?
There is no reason taxes should be going up under this format !
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Town of Oswego water rate's...

It is said that residents in the Town of Oswego pay $57.00 per quarter in water bills to the City of Oswego. Now this low rate "water deal" was supposedly negotiated by dirty Dave White when he was Town of Oswego Supervisor.
So if this is true about the "water rates" with the Town of Oswego? Then the City of Oswego should cancel the contract with the Town of Oswego and renegotiate those "water rates!" And make the Town of Oswego residents pay the same amount that City of Oswego residents are paying "per quarter" for water usage...
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Fire Department
I heard that Mayor Barlow is seriously considering laying off twelve to sixteen Oswego fire fighters due to the fact that Oswego is losing a million dollars due to OCWA having had made their last payment to the City of Oswego. Well I would like to commend Mr.Barlow for considering the tax payers who have had more of their share of tax increases in the last few years where it is to the point where people just can't take on any more tax increases! People are being foreclosed on their homes, especially the ones on fixed incomes such as many Senior Citizens who just cannot do it anymore! However I don't think the Firemen should shoulder the brunt of the cutback. Yes we do have more firemen then comparable size cities such as Cortland and Auburn but we also have more police, DPW workers more police SUV'S and other related equipment. In my own personal opinion it should be cuts across the board, Fire Dept, Police Dept. DPW employees. Why do we need an ambulance service? We have Menter and Mcfee in Oswego County. Why do we need a Cop on every corner? Why do we need someone riding around on a sweeper every day on newly paved streets marking them all up? I am just glad that our Mayor has the bal&$ to act on behalf of the already over burdened tax payer. If we don't to something now perhaps the return of parking meters will show up in Oswego! So let's do it in a fair manor, across the board!
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Well here we go . Laying off 16 firemen. Why don't we take a look at the DPW. Supervisor's there are 7 of them for 60 employees. There's a garage supervisor for 5 men . Let's take a good look there.
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Oz firedepartment layoffs...
I've heard people complain and I've seen1st hand the fire department abuses with equipment. Using emergency equipment, (fire trucks & ambulances) to goes grocery shopping. (Photos of this) An Oz firemans$12,000.00 contract with city to spray roundup (mucked that up.) A lot of them have other jobs. They get hurt on those they claim they do it on the city time, collect compensation. Oh and the fireboat! Nice video of the firemen joy-riding doing donuts out at the lighthouse with it. And how many times have they damaged it?
The firemen are on shift work and there is no excuse for them to leave the station except to answer a call. And after they have answered the call - return to the firehouse. *Not stop and pick up food & snacks, and something else they do while they are on the clock!* and another thing, close the dam Westside Firestation. Transfer those firemen back to the Eastside Fire station. So by closing the Westside Fire station it saves the tax payers money and those guys will fill out the ranks of the Eastside Fire Station. What a concept?
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16

Fire Department Reduction....About time
the mismanagement of the OFD has been going on for at least 10 years and has been the subject in letters to the editor and here on the Lion. There was no question that this department was mismanaged ten years l, but ago, but got much worst under that drunken chief in charge now. If the city would have government would have listened and paid heed to much documentation presented to them, this could have been a lot less painful, but the greed of this department and having a chief who is clueless on how to manage brought this to a head along with the loss of water revenues that finally pushed the city to look at the gorilla in the room..the greedy un-managed OFD. It is about time.....
I don't know how this statement could have been made:"The potential layoffs, which would be based on seniority, could affect many young department members who moved to the city to start families, Geraci said.",..... 85% of the firemen live outside the city of Oswego and dumb statements like that are not going to fly or make us feel sorry about this situation.... senior men in the OFD have been screwing the younger men for years...check your facts. Senior men get the OT and the newbies get nothing.
Too bad you can not lay off the men that live out side the city first and keep those that chose to support the city they live in.
                                                                                                                                                   August 10/16







Today's  Quote  August 9/2016

"Life stinks, but that doesn't mean you don't enjoy it"
Dustin Hoffman

Water Shortage? or Ethical Deficiency?
Q: What are the actual costs involved with pumping extra water (besides the electric bill?)
A: None (any overtime claims will be FALSE as all the "extra pumping" is done during regular work hours with the same number of employees)
                                                                                                                                                   August 9/16

Q: Why didn't they pump water directly from the lake to water Breitbeck Park? Not illegal.
A: Because then there would be no excuse to raise water rates/taxes

Q: How much of the "cost" of running the pumps (for the benefit of a few business owners) will be paid for with your tax money?
A: All of it

Q: Why are some hotels and businesses seemingly exempt from the water ban?
A: They own the city.
                                                                                                                                                   August 9/16

This city hasn't a clue, nor cares
This pile of crap sits to the left of the entrance to the train bridge on West First and Utica St. This pile of shrubbery and garbage has been being dumped here regularly, as can be seen by the rot, and smell. Purposefully dumped without a care. Littering is illegal, yet the city does it! Great view for the out of "towners" we are trying to attract to this city. Good job Kells!
                                                                                                                                                   August 9/16

Conserve water
So, the state comes out asking for people to conserve water. Barlow follows lead, because he loves is picture in the news,
so I'm wondering. Pawn shops have to comply and be charged a fee for being in business, so why shouldn't Bell's car washes be shut down and/or charged a fee to be using water at car washes within the city? Just wondering.
                                                                                                                                                   August 9/16

suco suco sucoooooo
Oh where to begin... Lets start with the water restrictions in Oswego, that doesn't include watering the new sod installed along the lake side between & infront of Waterbury, Riggs and Johnson halls! A lot of your money was spent on that & it's very important to keep it watered. And don't even think of bringing up the water cannon on the presidents lawn that's drawing off of the hydrant infront of Johnson Hall. That lawn needs to be green for the wedding (oops, I mean "campus event". we're not supposed to call it a wedding. My bad!) Asking the plumbers to put a pump in the lake for the sprinklers would just be a waste of valuable resources. Besides, all the plumbers are very busy working overtime trying to stop all the leaks in the newly renovated Tyler Hall. Since the water was turned on, Better known as Oswego Falls! Come visit, after they dig up & replace the new sidewalk to repair the leak in the main there!
How about the GPS tracking being put into the maintenance vehicles??? Did yall hear about this from CSEA??? NO? Of course not, that would mean that information is coming down from the leadership (lololol) to the members. Thanks Joe! Maybe update that web site that no one reads. That's some old, old information! This is your last year right? You're too comfortable. ANYWAY, MKD gets to sit in her office & watch how many laps the painters are doing. Way to get the most out of your workers. They fill out TMA cards, fill out work orders, Fill out vehicle log sheets, it's only natural they should have GPS Tracking too. I thought there was a trust issue someone was working on? did One Group get fired already? I hear the AVP has some honesty & trust issues too. You didn't really expect a reply to your email did you? Good for you for trying though. You've got big ones, I'll give you that! Here's a little tip for you JMF (usually people learn this early on in life but it's tough for some to grasp) Are you ready..."you can't demand trust and respect" and..."fear for ones position or job isn't respect"! keep trying, you'll get it. I'm sure it was even in one of those books you hand out. Well, that's enough for now. You all keep us so entertained. Thanks for the info and the laughs. always good seeing you!
                                                                                                                                                   August 9/16

About freakin time we made some cuts to one of the biggest departments we have.
The gravy train is pulling into the station for its finally stop!!
I hope our councilors stick to their guns and make this change for those of us that can longer afford to live in this city.

                                                                                                                                                   August 9/16









Today's  Quote  August 7-8/2016

"I love dogs. They live in the moment and don't care about anything except affection and food. They're loyal and happy. Humans are just too damn complicated."

 David Duchovny



Oswego Water Curtailment

Would it not be ironic if the City of Oswego, had to pay OCWA for purified water???

It was brought to the city's attention a few years ago that they needed to up-grade and increase the capacity of the treatment plant, but again, the administration at that time was more concerned about getting re-elected than about the long term needs of the residents. Now the city cannot make enough filtered water to meet the demands of the city due to increase in housing, hotels, and watering lawns in a drought, and this spend and tax administration will not make the financial cuts necessary to fix the problem.

While we are talking about water, I have heard that it is the intention of this administration to drive the flat rate up so high for the residential users that it will be more economic to have a meter installed than to pay the new flat rate. Seems they are going to tax (fee) the hell out of us to be able to meet or be slightly under the 5% tax maximum increase law.  Maybe they should start at zero and work down instead of using a target of 5% increase.

                                                                                                                                                     August 7-8/16



Watering brightbeck park

Water the park was not about make it look good. It was because all those people in the park and one person throwing a lit cigarette on the ground and the park would have a fire on its hands.

                                                                                                                                                     August 7-8/16




According to a recent newspaper article there will be a guided tour of the Fort Ontario Post Cemetery on Wednesday, August 10.  It will begin at the overlook parking lot, near the cemetery, at 7:00 p.m.  Conducted by one of the fort's competent staff, fort historian Rachel Ruller it will be an event you don't want to miss.   Professional leadership and staff keep this site  in operation for the enjoyment of the public.  It's like the U.S. Marine's slogan: "A few good men." Fort Ontario is maintained by a few good men and women.  Fort Ontario is Oswego's greatest asset - let's support it.  

                                                                                                                                                    August 7-8/16






Today's  Quote  August 6/2016

"Just remember - when you think all is lost, the future remains"
Dr. Robert H. Goddard

Conserve water in Oz?
Tell SUNY Oswego to stop watering their lawns. Here's a question; "Does SUNY Oswego even pay for the water it gets from Oswego?"
                                                                                                                                                   August 6/16

Better question….. do they get their water from Oswego or OCWA?

Sea Grant Pacific Region Coastal Experiences Valuable for New York’s Water Resources, Marine Sanctuaries
The experiences of Sea Grant representatives recently returned from educational outreach travel to American Samoa and Japan are expected to benefit the anticipated announcement of freshwater marine sanctuaries in New York’s Great Lakes region and coastal interests in the marine district of the state.

At the request of the National Marine Sanctuaries program, New York Sea Grant Coastal Recreation and Tourism Specialist David G. White traveled to the U.S. Island territory of American Samoa to introduce coastal resource leaders to the award-winning Discover Clean and Safe Boating educational program.

‘Our focus in inviting New York Sea Grant to share its best practices for clean, safe and environmentally-friendly boating is to enhance the safety of those who work, explore, and conduct research in the six National Marine Sanctuaries surrounding American Samoa,’ said Dana Wilkes, Small Boats Coordinator with the NOAA National Ocean Service, Seattle, WA.

CLICK on the LINK BELOW for comments from Hawaii Sea Grant Director Darren T. Lerner and to read more about the outreach in Samoa and about a trip earlier this year when National Sea Grant Advisory Board Chairman Dale Baker traveled to Japan with a delegation of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and Sea Grant leaders from several states for an International Sea Grant Symposium at the Tokyo University of Marine Science and Technology. Japan is interested in enhancing its coastal resources management with Sea Grant-style programming.

LINK to complete release:

                                                                                                                                                    August 6/16

Water Restrictions for City of Oswego
I find it ironic that Barlow is asking us to curtail our water usage, yet two weeks before Harborfest the city was watering Brietbeck Park every day during the midst of this drought. The mayor wanted the grass green for our visitors who don't pay a penny for water or sewer, and now after wasting millions of gallons sprinkling the park, we need to curtail our usage and will see no rebate from the city on our bills. How much more out of touch can this mayor be?
                                                                                                                                                   August 6/16






Today's  Quote  August 5/2016

“The more we study, the more we discover our ignorance”
Percy Bysshe Shelley

Water conservation
I noticed our Mayor has issued a water restriction notice. He might want to send a personalized one to SUNY Oswego. Drove through there on Thursday afternoon and sprinklers are watering everywhere all over campus.

Oswego City Asked by the Kid Mayor to Cut Back on Water Usage
There is only one response to the Kid Mayor, go F&@K yourself!
If you had not noticed, we live on a lake where all our water comes from A$$wipe. Just look out the window, now look north, yep there it is.
When you send us a reimbursement check for my high water and sewer bill, I'll cut back on my water usage, until then, the above statement hold true.
                                                                                                                                                   August 5/16

I would like to know where is ‘the city’s ground water storage tank’ he is talking about. Last I knew we pumped water from the lake through the treatment plant on Sheldon Ave and into the water system. That system includes three above ground storage tanks used to maintain pressure and a constant supply, one is behind the Mental Health Ctr, one is on the country Club Hill and the other on Ellen St. Hill. Where are we storing groundwater and what for?





Today's  Quote  August 4/2016

"I would rather trust a woman's instinct than a man's reason."
Stanley Baldwin

Wake up Scriba!

How come that drunken SOB Michael Barry is allowed to keep his job as Scriba’s Highway Superintendant? Michael Barry’s got what, - 4 DWI’s? Barry can’t drive a vehicle, so he can do his job at the Scriba Highway Dept... So Scriba tax payer's are paying for the wages of a drunk to sit in an office and do what? Nothing!!!

If he has to go someplace,Barry has to be chauffeured, more tax payers money wasted. And any vehicle Barry does own has to have a breathalyzer installed on it. *Well if that the case!* Then every piece of equipment at the Scriba Highway Dept. needs to have a breathalyzer installed on them. And barry needs to be given a breathalyzer every time he shows up for uh-um work?

It's time to smarten up and get rid of Barry! After all, it's your tax dollars being thrown away on this drunk...
                                                                                                                                                   August 4/16

                                                                                                                                                   August 4/16

Reply to the Death of common
Your posts or atleast the first on was confusing. Zodiac blew people up. Several times. If you Google cold case Expert I believe his name last name is Cameron he explains. Zodiac would take bodies sometimes. He would blow these bodies up. Burning them and leaving sharred remains. Not all victims were shot to the left temple and executed. I never knew that until watching the expert on the Zodiac. But I can say. The Zodiac was one sick sob. At some points he would take these remains and place them on the property of the one he was attempting to frame. If it did not work, he simply killed again. Ya get the chance. Listen to him speak.
One thing about the Zodiac, he wrote in symbols O,C and hallow triangles. Weird Bohrer writes about the Heidi Allen Triangles.
                                                                                                                                                   August 4/16

Gary Thibodeau Case
There was a man. Sitting in the courtroom. That many didn't notice. I believe he posted. That in all his years of service, and every case he has ever seen. He would bet every penny he had in retirement that the only thing left is the cleansing. I'll bet he is right. One case says it all Thomas Bianco. The district attorney with held one very important piece of evidence. A list with 32 lines. A list of suspects. It freed him and the Supreme court ruled and ordered a probe in to the acting depts, the DA can protect any suspects involved for so long. A probe brings higher ups in to seize and control the acting dept. Gary's case may bring arrests in the end. Fbi isn't a joke. Each one especially wescott was given the chance to do what was right. We are all given chances. Some day you will run out of those chances. The way the Supreme court granted the appeal and the comments said by the judge. Laws are in question. Chances are judge King violated the laws. So did the district attorneys office. Definitely petrowski deleting texts. More than one page of information was with held. Thousands of new documents, videos, recordings, many things have also taken place. I think especially being Westcott I'd start praying. Gary's last appeal. The dairy wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. But a suspect list is. It has already happened in supreme court. It'll happen again. Especially seeing as the state has no weapon, no DNA, no witnesses really left for them, no habious corpus, no real theory that truly connects Gary in any way. You have a juror also saying they simply believed the Sheriffs got this far. Meant Gary was guilty. Violated the one rule. Beyond reasonable doubt. They did not even have that. But the fella that was in the court room, made another comment. This guy is very very important. So I'd believe him over any DA, Sheriff or ADA, "Who do you think you are fooling Oswego."
                                                                                                                                                   August 4/16

Do not look for any action from the State Attorney General’s Office. Those people are another big bureaucratic joke. They are tied right in with the crooks in Oswego County.

Short Clip
Gary Thibodeau Vs Steve Avery (case):
A little with cold case Expert on the Zodiac killer vs Michael Bohrer.

                                                                                                                                                    August 4/16

Interview on Zodiac
Cold case expert information on the Zodiac.








Today's  Quote  August 3/2016

"I am what time, circumstance, history, have made of me, certainly, but I am also, much more than that. So are we all."

 James Arthur Baldwin



Rabid raccoon found on east fourth street.

                                                                                                                                                    August 3/16



Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
to the person who responded to my post about Jen W. and what she was saying to Tonya Priest, my intent was to show how well she was treated by Inv. Petrowski. He let her walk, told her she would not be arrested and let her sign a statement that she was lying. Even after the taped call and poly proved she wasn't. Trying to prove that there is a reason behind all this ignoring of hints, or tips that they are not investigating.

I was showing how the info she gives gets ignored by the OCSD even though this is still an open case.

The "rubbish" you say I posted came from an actual phone call taped by the OCSD and audio/video of JW being interrogated by the cops. I just copied and pasted it.

As for the Zodiac Killer, he never burned anyone, unless the documentaries I have watched on him left that out.

                                                                                                                                                   August 3/16




Today's  Quote  July 8/2016


“Man's natural character is to imitate;

that of the sensitive man is to resemble as closely as possible the person whom he loves.
Marquis De Sade



Billy Barlow




To Spearhead Campaign




For The Donald











Keep It Up
All you dirty birds who are mean to your elected Mayor don't know "Sweet Billy" as only I do. If you knew how he got to where he is now you'd have a different opinion of him. How he acquired his first business from his morally challenged uncle was a feat worthy of the appreciation of Donald Trump, his small handed idol. Did you know that Billy has small hands too!? The doctor said they might "drop" and "it" might start to grow as he got older. We're still hoping and he still is a handsome boy! Any woman his mother's age would be pleased to know him. I don't believe any of you dirty rats can de-rail Billy's gravy train but he welcomes the challenge. Keep it coming! Billy has recently gained weight and is ready to get "husky" with you all.
P.S. Yes, he has more than one blue suit.
                                                                                                                                 June 23/16

Great Quote
“Many people in the community have never lived in poverty and don’t truly understand what it is like to live moment to moment”
Justin Rudgick
This is a great statement! This A$$hole doesn't even live in this community and he thinks he has a handle on poverty in Oswego. The County of Oswego is spending over, are you ready, $63,000,000 supporting poverty through DSS. Rudgick thinks by spending $1500 per person (City Officials) is going to make them sympathetic to the plight of the 21,500 people in poverty is a total waste of money. Most of our officials look down their noses on these people and would never sit down with them to understand how and why they are in the position they are in.
Send this A$$HOLE back where he came from.......
                                                                                                                                 June 23/16





Today's  Quote  June 22/2016

“Many people in the community have never lived in poverty and don’t truly understand what it is like to live moment to moment”
Justin Rudgick

When it comes to poverty we are the 8th worst county in the state.
There are 21,565 people in Oswego County living in poverty that is 18.5% of the population.
One in every six people are living in poverty and these a$$holes want to simulate poverty for those blind people who cannot see it all around them.







Today's  Quote  May 11/2016


“Yes, there is possible danger. But on the other side, if it’s used responsibility we can work with it. This particular issue is no different than any other stuff that you have in your medicine cabinet,” he said. “We’re not talking about an airplane that is going to fly over and spread an Agent Orange type dust all over the city.”
Robert Corradino

You have not got a clue as to what the f**k you are talking about.

Wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution?

Worst Case Scenario

Some fat lazy fireman spends $15,000 to sue the city for $12,000 and he wins.
Do you reall think some cheap chiseling Oswego fireman would spend that kind of money on a lawyer??????????

Best Case Scenario

The city has to eat a $12,000 contract and no one or no pet gets sick or dies from herbicide poisoning.

It should be a no f**king brainer.


Mayor Barlow was “looking for a consensus from the council on how to proceed”.


There is leadership at its finest. Waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.

We should do a DNA check to see if he is not really Gilligans son.

Not every part of Viet Nam was sprayed with the (
liquid ) agent Orange yet the Veterans Administration considers any veteran who set foot in the country to have been exposed.

When the Sokolove Lawfirm brings a class action suit against the City of Oswego it will say if you set foot in Oswego City parks you were exposed to the herbicide Roundup and may be entitled to a substantial settlement. Get the legal representation you  deserve call Sokolove Law.


“According to the city attorney, the resolution (to rescind) is in violation of the 2016 Rules of the Common Council”

But the mayor disposing of city property without council approval, awarding $25,000 contracts without seeking bids, and doing business with a city employee are not violations of the charter or anything else.



This Mayor, this City Attorney, this DPW Comissioner and this City Council

do not give a rats ass about the health and safety of the people of this community.

Kill Dem WeedsLemon Grove Blog

                                                                                                                                            May 11/16

After Lengthy Debate Council Takes No Action on Herbicide Spraying

                                                                                                                                            May 11/16

Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)


                                                                                                                                            May 11/16

Dumb City Att.
This tells the aldermen, if you re-nig on this contract, the city will be sued! Tells the aldermen, if people get sick, city will be sued! The Taxpayers lose again! Lets try this, anything that might put the taxpayers at risk, goes out in news memos one month in advanced and have proper notice! After all, the aldermen are not talking to the taxpayers,and do not go thru the pall times only, other forms of media must be used because not everyone gets that paper or subscribes on line and it seems that the aldermen are not reaching out to the taxpayers, except the you man mr. g. good for him, someone is showing some backbone and listening to his people !
                                                                                                                                 May 11/16

School Board Election
I was going to vote for Aimee Callan, but after seeing yard signs with Bell/Callan,
I have changed my mind. If she has built a coalition with Bell, there is no way I could vote for her now. Jim Bell is right up Ballow's butt and was given a $25,000 no show job at City Hall. If he is running, it is not for the kids or the school, he is looking for something (job or himself, job for relative, and so on).
I think Amiee may have just lost her bid for school board by joining up with a guy like Bell; it is not good for her reputation. Sorry Aimee, you just lost my vote and maybe many more.
                                                                                                                                 May 11/16

Weed Killer
Hey ,this is simple, do not use it out of taxpayers concerns, voids contract! Health of the public over rides contract! Does this lawyer know anything ?
                                                                                                                                 May 11/16









Today's  Quote  May 6/2016

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx


Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals

In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?


Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????




                                                                                                                           Jan 11/16



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!








Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

If you enjoy fiction you will love this.








Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.

                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14




Reporting Welfare Fraud
If you suspect, or have knowledge of a social services client fraudulently receiving assistance from Public Assistance, Food Stamps or Home Energy Assistance (HEAP), you should report it to the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance.



Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force 


Secret Service Electronic Crime Task Force



RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


New York State Police
Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

Fulton, NY 13069



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