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Today's Quote, July 30/14

“A democratic government is the only one in which those

who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.”
Alexis de Tocqueville



 11.9 Miles From Where Heidi Disappeared




Cadaver dog 'alerted' twice at cabin where search for Heidi Allen's body continues, attorney said.

I wonder what Heidi Allen's family thinks of Moe Todd's investigation now? They got to be asking did he really go into the woods and search or did he just ask Len Ponzi for a thumbs up or down. I think the State Police should take this investigation over and while they are at it start a new one into the Sheriff's Department.



                                                                                                                    July 30/14


The city has done a masterful job of running anyone with money out of town. Having lunch down by the river I noticed that only a handful of boats were present; just a police boat patrolling, waiting to pounce on the first boat they saw moving, was enjoying the day. Talking to the boaters over the years and simple observation, the harassment from law enforcement was unbelievable. One captain told of being stopped three times after entering the harbor by the light house! NYS Troopers, DEC, sheriffs, coast guard, city police, border patrol all had their armada out to show force. I witnessed another incident were a captain, docking his boat, stepped off to secure it. He had a can of beer in his hand and Oswego’s finest were there to thwart this menacing 45 year old. Meanwhile, the punks are on their skateboards, all the teen mothers and hudd’rs bring out the kids so we can see what we’re paying for, and house parties in the neighborhoods run rampant. As a kid on spring break in Fort Lauderdale many years ago, I was rounded up and detained for whatever reason it didn’t matter. The sergeant was not a bad guy and told me, “nothing personal kid, people with money don’t want this act anymore” He let me go and I walked away with an understanding that this is going to be a place we’re I would like to live someday. Let me make it clear that I don’t mean millionaires when I speak of “people with money”, but of people who work, contribute to society, law abiding, respectful, and don’t expect a free ride. Because some kid can’t handle his beer or will start a fight, I can’t relax, have a beer in East Park, and enjoy the entertainment unless a corralled in some roped off area paying $4 for a beer. All because the councilors overreact with knee jerk legislation and our police force can’t distinguish whom or what is the problem. Like many of the boaters who will never return, I can’t help but to share their sentiment. I’m wondering when they gave that 45 year old an open container citation they said to him, “nothing personal sir, people on the dole don’t want this act anymore” - Sheldon Beach Lifeguard
                                                                                                                    July 30/14



There is a muck farm on the Hall road just east of O'Connor road that
had good potatoes last fall. They have small bags of small ones or 50#
bags, red or white. I haven't seen any for sale yet this year so far,
will post if and when I do.

                                                                                                                    July 30/14

Oswego Council OKs Amending Charter
Gilligan said the first thing that would be cut would be quality of life......what quality of life??? The slum lords and HUD have pretty much sucked that all away.


                                                                                                                    July 30/14

Why do you think oswego daily news has nothing about Heidi ? The comments on syracuse.com are really bashing moe Todd and rightly so.
                                                                                                                    July 30/14

re: harbormess
You can thank the city councel and mayor for that.
They would rather give all the money to the O.F.D.
to throw away. Wait till they start crying about how
bad a 5% tax cap will hurt the city. The only thing it
hurt is how much they can’t dish out to the fire dept.
                                                                                                                    July 30/14

US Now has a National Militarized Police Force


                                                                                                                    July 30/14

Last time I checked harbormess was a 501C and the city had nothing to do with running it. The residents just get to put up with a lot of obnoxious people and then pay for the clean up. I think the increased police presence was great. It kept the damage in the neighborhoods down for a change. Like the ambulance service its one more thing the taxpayers can do without.
                                                                                                                    July 30/14



Sometime in the early sixties I can remember going to some big farm west of Phoenix to pick up potatoes that were missed by the harvester. I think that is now Radison.

                                                                                                                    July 30/14





Today's Quote, July 29/14

“The good news is we had that (large increase) just last year, so we don’t expect another. We’re going to do everything we can to keep it under 5 percent anyway; it’s just good leadership.”

Bullsh!t!……… leadership would be getting rid of our multi-million dollar ambulance (overtime) service and using the free service from Menter. You are not a leader Gilligan you are a looser. If you were a leader you still might be working for AT&T.

Oswego Council OKs Amending Charter
Hay Mr. Mayor “a slippery slope” your ASS 43% tax increase, You spent that much on overtime for harborfeast this week-end. Hope you enjoyed yourself, did you get to go for a ride in the rented NON LICENSED Ambulance you had to have for the week-end?

                                                                                                                    July 29/14

Heidi Allen
Now would be a good time for our Sheriff to let the rest of the world know what "Smoking Gun" he has had all these years that makes him and the D.A. know for sure that Gary Thibedeau is guilty! If the sheriff department sifted through the remains of the two cabins in Mexico they must have some doubt. I've been wondering for twenty years why Gary was found guilty yet Richard wasn't. There was no clear evidence produced at the trial other than jail cell gossip. The sheriff must have evidence that wasn't released to the public but was given to the Allen family to convince them the Thibedeaus were guilty. Let the world know, Sheriff Todd. I personally do not believe Gary was guilty and feel he will be released to sue Oswego County for millions for false arrest.
                                                                                                                    July 29/14

                                                                                                                    July 29/14

Dozen arrested in Saratoga Co. prostitution sting
OPD: this how it is done:


                                                                                                                    July 29/14

Winds Down Tree On Syracuse Ave
The tree was all rotted on the interior, should have been cut down a few years back when part of it fell and did damage to private property. But no, the city lets it sit there, they are lucky it did not injure or kill someone. Another kick the can down the road project.

                                                                                                                    July 29/14

I feel this city is ruining HarborFest. It was once a great, fun-filled experience that most enjoyed. In the past you would see the hotel balconies overflowing with people, parks full, traffic at a standstill, because there were so many people walking. Pizza shops, bars, and sub shops would be selling outdoors, because of the number of people. Boats strewn across the river, parties in the street that give you memories for a lifetime. Vendors happy when talking with them, while giving you deals, or at least willing to bargain. Not so anymore. I understand times are tough for many, but I feel the city has ruined this event. We're down to 3 music stages, that had times of over an hour between acts, hotel balconies bare, a handful of boats, dock slips empty, parks empty, the mayor said 90,000 people for Friday night, I'll bet there weren't 90,000 for the whole 4 days. Someone screwed up timing on fireworks, although they always impress and did so this year. I think there was a cop for every ten people, a sign of policing! Bridges were not closed for too long, a sign of no more people coming! The lack of stages is a big sign. Should be a major venue like Breitbeck Park on the east side. Not sure why we don't have things like we had before, such as jets, water shows. I still can't for the life of me understand why we Do Not Use Our Water! We are surrounded by water and...Nothing! No beaches, no fishing anymore, because of the siren and city orders. No big water events...I just don't get it. There is so much we could do with our water. The bands are down to just a few. Headliners still seem to impress, but some just don't stand time. Our local band Frosbit Blue filled the River Stsge, and should have been in a bigger venue and under the lights. All the parks were empty this year. And trying to find trash cans is an adventure, just don't get it. Police Officers seen standing for over an hour talking to women, not paying mind to anything else, firemen sitting in their own comfy chairs, lots of kids...do something! Your the truck or ambiance, give out those plastic fire hats, something. Vendors aren't pulling in the cash they use to, the city taxing everything, and charging too much for them to make it. Again this event could be grand, if not for the city.
                                                                                                                    July 29/14




Today's Quote, July 28/14

“This isn't the best time for America laughing at ourselves.

I think political satire thrives much more at a time when we're in a mood to laugh at ourselves.

The degree of political correctness has just gotten terrible.”
Norman Lear

Where can you buy decent potatoes in Oswego? For at least two years,
I've been stuck with bags of potatoes that have spots on the outside
and huge blemishes in the center. Tried several stores- all the same!
                                                                                                                    July 28/14

For starters do not buy anything that has the words harvest or gold in the name. They are all garbage and all from the same outfit regardless what the bag may say.
From time to time Aldi’s has some in plastic bags, which are pretty good. Once upon a time you could get a 20 lb bag of culls at Price Chopper for around 6.00. They were better than any of them. Years ago there was a fella who worked at Sealright and had a farm on County Rt 8 out behind Lake Nehanawanta. He grew really good potatoes and everyone went there to get them. The house is still there, somewhere between RT. 3 and the Phinney Rd. Everytime I go by I think about his potatoes and then crap we get in the stores today.


County refuses to release info on accountant candidates

They are trying there best to get one dumber than the treasurer.




Today's Quote, July 27/14

“I never did say that you can't be a nice guy and win.

I said that if I was playing third base and my mother rounded third with the winning run,

I'd trip her up.”

Leo Durocher

Harbor Mess
I called the cops after seeing some one messing around my vehicle about 1:30 AM. They just missed the person.
When I went out to see if all was well. This is what I found on my hood.

Here is hoping all the little harbor drunks and doper OD and die!

                                                                                                                    July 27/14


It was probably just talcum powder.

Quiet Harborfest
This year seemed quiet compared to other years.

I would not call it quiet. Especially if you had a front row seat for the entertainment.
That guy couldent sing 30yrs ago. Now he is an old man who cant sing. But its Oswiga if you play loud enough no one cares.
                                                                                                                    July 27/14

I don’t know who it was but he sure was murdering some Neal Diamond songs. He was half way through Sweet Caroline before I figured out what it was.




Today's Quote, July 26/14

"The thing you have to be prepared for is that other people don't always dream your dream."
Linda Ronstadt


ambulance service
What happened to the practice of City government not being in competition with the private sector. Years ago there wasn’t a private ambulance service, now there is. Would the City go into the housing rental business, grocery store business, garbage business etc.?
                                                                                                                    July 26/14

Years ago we had a real fire department with real firemen.
Today we have a hero department full of lazy, usless, blood sucking vultures.

                                                                                                                    July 26/14

harbormess chaos begins early
To the complete moron who parked their ford car on west seventh
blocking a private driveway...enjoy your car being gone when you are
done partying because it was towed, enjoy the ticket along with the tow
fee also scumbag!, my grandbabies had to sleep in the car you blcked in
as it had no way out around you for three hours.to go home after
parking legally at a friends home. I hope your selfish ass has to walk
a mile or so to the tow storage lot to pick up your vehicle, because
getting a cab is also impossible. Stupid bastard.
                                                                                                                    July 26/14




Today's Quote, July 25/14

“How is it that little children are so intelligent and men so stupid? It must be education that does it.”
Alexandre Dumas

Sickens Me
Another back door deal costing this broke city a fat salary and benefits. Ron K, your knee jerk decisions make you look like the biggest fool walking. I don't blame Gillen for this reckless spending, he's already proven to be out of the loop in more ways than one. Ron K, I'll address you. You just spent weeks and countless hours covering the city's ass for the tax increase that could very well put this city in jeopardy because we are "broke" in more ways than one yet there is no stopping you. What will this Planner do? Don't we have a plan? 2020 Plan? Don't we have a zoning enforcer? Wtf? Put the people we are paying to work instead of hiring more! Grant writer? Vanouse is no longer writing grants or implementing her Plan so get rid of her! You talk in circles and out both sides of your mouth, typical politician.
We had an architect move home, an established one specializing in historic projects, on a big scale thougout the US. Vanouse's dirty back door deal which screwed him over, left a bad enough taste for him to pack his bags and kissed this town good bye. This poor girl is coming from Vail? I doubt she had to learn any improvising or cutting corners with finances on her projects. Maybe you can take a few days and educate her on HUD, ' rollies' - how to roll your own smokes and what the term 'thirty rack' means. She's gonna be shell shocked.
                                                                                                                    July 25/14

RE: Perversion Parade
I see it is happening this quick. Now all the so called normal people of Oswego coming out of the woodwork about the parade. Maybe if the poster asks nice maybe he could lead the parade. Oh wait a minute that is right it is about Pride which leaves the poster out. I am guessing he has something about Pride that does not sit well. It is the 21st century so stop thinking about the dark ages. There are a lot more people in Oswego than you might think that would be walking in the Pride Parade. Maybe even one or more of your friends.

I think it is a good thing for Oswego to be proud of the people that live there and or go to school there as well. There money is as green as everyone else.
If you don't like it don't go.

A friend of the City and always will be. Let the parade go marching by.
                                                                                                                    July 25/14

A Disney Parade … whoopee.
Now if it was going to be a Doo Dahh parade I would definitely go and see that.


How Stupid Can They Be
How much more hypocritical can the mayor and the common council be? The mayor and the council first want to give the city residents an 82% tax increase and dropped it to 42%, only due to pressure from the community, and the year before we received a 11% increase . Total 54%! After ripping the average home owner off ($80,000 house) for $400 dollars a year, because the city was in such bad shape, they have done the following just to rub salt in the wound:
The mayor hired a $50,000 a year zoning officer. (His wifes hair dresser’s husband)
The mayor hired a $63,000 a year planning and zoning director.
They purchased a $85,000 ambulance for he OFD when they knew that Menter could server the city for nothing.
They rented an ambulance for $125/day and are still renting it for a total cost so far of $15,000.
Ignored the savings from eliminating 12-15 men from the OFD that would not be needed if Menter took over.
Ignored the fact that millions of dollars are being padded in the OFD retirement and over time system.
Re-appointed Mike Myers to the council after he retired for 24 hours so he could rip off the state disability system for thousands of extra dollars.
Continues to allow the OFD to use the overtime system as their own little savings account. Example, the new fire boat is running up and down the river (2 men) while there are (2 men ) called in on overtime to cover the fire shift.
Put Smegoskey , you know, the Minetto Fire Thief , on paid leave, and not even thinking about what he ripped the OFD off for, probly thousands!
These are just the things that have come to the surface, so you can image what is under the surface. Then you have the mayor’s “monkey on a chain” Halfowitz quoting in the paper how great everything is. Time to get rid of all these morons, and lets start this November by voting Mike Myers out of office. Yes, that’s correct, he can only hold his seat until Dec 2014 and will have to be elected again for the last year of his term. Kick the SOB out and elect Pat McLaughin to fill his seat!
                                                                                                                    July 25/14

I would say this is the kind of stupid there is no end to.

Heidi Allen's family says new allegations about her death aren't credible


                                                                                                                    July 25/14




Today's Quote, July 24/14

"The more you reason the less you create"
Raymond Chandler

A Police Roll-Call Reminder - Women May Go Topless - NYTimes.com
Saw in the police blotter that the OPD arrested a woman for being topless, this is not illegal, it has been this way for 20 years. Perhaps the OPD needs to get them selves into the 21 st century. If she sues the city, she will win. However, there are two old farts in the neighborhood, males in their 80's, who are topless quite often. Man boobs, it is extremely visually offensive.



                                                                                                                    July 24/14

Perversion Parade
Its all about the normalization of the entire Open Sexuality spectrum. Oswego's Councilors ought to be ashamed of themselves. Not helpful to society's cohesion.

Oh let them have their fun. Maybe they could get Governor Cuomo’s new left hand man to be the grand marshal. Who better to lead a pride parade than John T Sullivan.
                                                                                                                    July 24/14

ambulance service
What happened to the practice of City government not being in competition with the private sector? Years ago we did not have a private ambulance service like we do now. Would the City go into the rental property business, grocery store, garbage pick up etc.? Sounds like the company store. Then make laws to suit their fancy.
                                                                                                                    July 24/14

Yes the city is in those businesses and more recently

I hear they are running a campground at East 9th and Mercer Sts.

Help Wanted
I need someone for yard work and general help. $8.00 hour. Student okay.

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                                                                                                                    July 24/14

Midway Drive-In Seeks Help Of Community To Rebuild



                                                                                                                    July 24/14

Sting Renovations
How nice of the Sting to start their demo the week of Harborfest! Road was blocked off and now the sidewalk. This means the masses must walk in the road with all of the extra traffic we are gonna have this weekend! Is there a permit displayed for all work they are doing? How about stamped plans from a licensed engineer or architect? It looked like four 2x4's holding up the roof. Is code enforcement inspecting the work? Oh wait....isn't code enforcement now in the Fire Departments hands? Isn't the owner of the Sting a retired Fireman? Ahhhh...I see now.
                                                                                                                    July 24/14

There is seldom any rhyme or reason to what Ozwego’s first family of white trash does. However I did hear the front of the building was falling off. Hence the roping off of the street. Strange the OFD did not have a red “X” on the front of it though.

Maybe this is a job for our new City Planner. Yes a city planner now exists and supposedly she has credentials as an architect. Amy Birdsall, I am told, began her new job as Planner/Zoning Enforcement on Monday, with a starting salary of aprox. 70K. This is Gilligan’s idea of creating new jobs I suppose.


                                                                                                                    July 24/14

Suny Oswego
Mr D is a Big Fat Joke ?

Big: Large object !
Fat: A Greasy Substance or Fleshy !
Joke: Amusing remark or Speak to amuse !

Mr.D- Large, Fleshy, and He's Amusing to talk to ! Now I understand your " Slam "

But you Better look at the Pretators [ Sexual ] on Campus. Not Mr.D
A Pretator : A Animal or Human that Feeds on Other Animals or Humans to Satisfy thier need.
Now we have Something ! TOO SATISFY THIER NEEDS !

Now Look at yourself in the Mirror..Do you see a Worm ? Pig Face !

Pig Face : The Person who Just Slammed Mr. D !
                                                                                                                    July 24/14



Today's Quote, July 23/14

"The biggest sin is sitting on your ass"
Rose F. Kennedy

Suny Oswego
                                                                                                                    July 23/14

Wondered if I missed something along the way: are the alderman exempt from posting permit signs on their property when work is being done???? Our alderman (4th) never displayed a sign on his home when adding on a deck, which while we are on the subject, why was he allowed to use nearly the remainder of his "green space"?? He is also building a garage at a piece of property he purchased at 215 Duer St. and no permit anywhere to be seen..When my spouse and I wanted to add on our property we were put through hell with "leotta" and HIS conception of green space. He told me some people were grandfathered in and some were not. Anyway why again think one is above all.
Also a piece of property being renovated (owned by someone else) at 226 Duer St. and no permit being displayed. They put siding on right over the asbestos shingles covering the house.
Whats good for one should be the same for all. It just all falls into place for the corruption taking place in our city. Harbormess coming up and this city looks deplorable. However I will say more got done around here this week than any other time all year. Streets still in deplorable condition but we can buy a new ambulance???? Our forefathers have got to be spinning in their graves.
                                                                                                                    July 23/14

Gay Pride Parade, Festival Planned In Oswego

                                                                                                                    July 23/14




Today's Quote, July 22/14

“Never mistake motion for action.”
Ernest Hemingway

SUNY Oswego
Better be careful saying he got caught,you dont have all the facts yet.The real truth will come out and Mr.D as you call him will be found innocent of all charges.Learn ALL the facts before you run your mouth.
                                                                                                                    July 22/14

Midway Drive-in gets help from girl scouts

                                                                                                                    July 22/14

Would you like your Money Back??
Remember Kim Westcott from Discover Oswego in the lower level of Canal Commons? Well, she has reemerged on West 2nd Street right next to Simply Sweet Kids Boutique.
She owes lots of Oswego county people money. If you're looking for her you can now find her.
Burnt Once
                                                                                                                    July 22/14


                                                                                                                    July 22/14


For Sale
Selling a Johnson Green Canoe a Rogue

                                                                                                                    July 22/14




Today's Quote, July 21/14

"It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."
Edmund Hillary

By your post I must say your pretty smart. I think they just finished this big building called a science center. Now Bill go float off into your retirement. Should I assume there is no wasted purchases from BK or MD also?
                                                                                                                    July 21/14

Fire Fighter Retirement
I saw where you placed a link to the retirement of one of the OFD firemen and thought it would be of interest what his compensation has been for the past several years and what his average pay was for that time period.

This individual had basic EMT training and was not ALS qualified.

   Year     Regular pay  Gross pay    Overtime   Other(who knows what this is)

                 $                  $                $               $       

2007        39,300             79,500       23,900         16,300

2008         40,500            83,000        29,500        13,000

2009         44,600            91,300        33,900        12,800

2010         41,900            64,900         7800           15,300

2011         42,500            66,300          6400          17,300

2012         43,700           73,900          6700           23,600

2013         43,400           70,600           3100          24,100

2014 Avg   42,300          75,700        15,900         17,500

Looks like the OT and other pay (who knows what's in this pay) will give him an average pay of $75,500, so you can figure out what his final retirement pay will be when he goes. Not bad for a $42,000 job when you can pad your retirement by almost double. This is one of the reasons you got a 54% tax increase and the council, mayor, and chief knows it is going on.
                                                                                                                    July 21/14


SUNY Oswego
Better be careful saying he got caught,you dont have all the facts yet.The real truth will come out and Mr.D as you call him will be found innocent of all charges.Learn ALL the facts before you run your mouth.
                                                                                                                    July 21/14

Incompetent City Contractor
Over the past several months I have watched the incompetent contractor the city hired to do the sewer project completely screw up the streets in the 5th and 7th wards, and have yet to hear any outrage from the councilors of those wards (Barlow or Halfawitz). There has been no outrage from the mayor or the engineering office, nor, have I heard that the city is going to hold back payment until all the screw-up's this contractor has mad are corrected to the city's satisfaction.
I watched this contractor tear up W 1st Street in front of the Varick Power Station, violating all kinds of state safety regulations, causing cars to drive through huge holes that they made, then block the road for weeks on end, and when they finally finished that section, the pavement was like riding over a washboard. I and most other drivers moved to the center lane to avoid driving on that pavement. Then I saw that they put down a top coat layer and that the drive over it would be smooth, but no such luck. It is almost as bad as it was before they re-paved the section and I am back to moving to the center lane..
This is typical of the work this incompetent contractor is doing, has been doing for months, and it just goes on and on. Where are the city representatives we put in office to protect our interest or are they just as incompetent as the contractor they hires? Oh that's right, they would rather be sucking up the OFD, buying an $85,000 for an un-needed ambulance, and continuing to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, so why would they be concerned that a contractor is ripping us off.
I'm not sure which astronaut said, " I'm not comfortable sitting on top of a 3,000,000 horse power rocket built by the low cost contractor", but Oswego should feel the same way. The difference was that the low cost contractor was competent for the space program, where the contractor doing work for Oswego has proven themselves to be incompetent.
The over run on this project will cause you to see another 30-40% increase next year. You might want to start calling your representatives to get this under control, that is, only, if you don't want another huge tax increase! If you are comfortable with the tax increases they are shoving down your throat, just keep doing what you have been doing for the past few years, nothing, and then vote them back into office.
                                                                                                                    July 21/14



Today's Quote, July 20/14

“What a delightful thing is the conversation of specialists!

One understands absolutely nothing and it's charming.”
Edgar Degas

Public forums have been around a lot of years. Some post to
write in to warn you of the truth
and sometimes to hurt others with rumors.
Sometimes there are ways to check out what might
be true.

Ex: Aldis expansion, call the Oswego
Zoning office. A dishonest contractor lying for tax
breaks or a bad reputation check with the County &
Real Property websites and make sure they don't
have judgements against them before you sign to do
biz with them. The fire dept fiascos, I wanna know. I
research. It's our tax money getting thrown away,
fattening a few when a lot of us can hardly get by.

I'd prefer to read it and figure it out for myself.
The city hides too much we need a site to warn
                                                                                                                    July 20/14

Skilled boat operater, Is he the one who rammed the boat into the wall?

                                                                                                                    July 20/14



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Today's Quote, July 19/14

“'Tis strange what a man may do and a woman yet think him an angel”
William Makepeace


slip into my tight grip
Local working....she's still at it:

                                                                                                                    July 19/14

Tight grip, but can she pick up a silver dollar from the corner of the table?

Public Forums
Anyone that has anything to say about anything should only submit information they are willing to put their name to. I’m not saying there isn’t truth to some of this. If the editor of this site prefers to keep it anonymous then that is their poor practice and we shouldn’t take part. The mainstream media is bad enough without a bunch of anonymous rumors posted on the internet. Maybe this post is too critical to make it to the site.

Aaron Thorpe
                                                                                                                    July 19/14

Very little is too critical. Any information on the internet signed or not should be subject to a modicum or skepticism.

"Speaking of SUNY suckville, what about the hundreds of "research" cats they just toss in the dumpster. You know the chemically treated ones that go straight to the land fill thru Butlers."

Is this true, rumor or just more bullshit from the SUNY haters out there? What research might they be doing and in what department?
                                                                                                                    July 19/14

So he got caught
Well Mr D finally got caught lets see he like to steal vacuum clearers he didn't get caught cause he blew the guy in! Let's see punch RW and got arrest and try to take up donation for lawyer he was a lieder and lazy . He got just what he got coming . There few other that are light finger out there, like Mike I. Robert S ....
                                                                                                                    July 19/14

Confict of Interest
Isn't it a conflict of interest for Mayor Gillan to sell the Midtown Parking to the Sutton Co.? His wife, Roxanna Gillan is a property manager for the Sutton Company. This administration is making the Gosek Era look good...........just say in'

                                                                                                                    July 19/14


When you are looking through Gilligan's eyes there is no black and white. Everything is kind of gray.





Today's Quote, July 18/14

“The real character of a man is found out by his amusements.”
"Photography can only represent the present.

Once photographed, the subject becomes part of the past."
Berenice Abbott

Minetto Fire Chief
Interesting article today in the Pall Times about Mr. Smegelsky. Apparently he is on paid leave from his position with our fire department. So if you steal money you get a paid vacation for doing so? That makes no sense, why are we still paying him? He will probably drag the proceedings out as long as he can to continue his paid vacation for many months. Does he still accrue vacation time while on paid leave in case he needs more time off later?
Very upset citizen.

                                                                                                                    July 18/14

Is There An Aldi’s Expansion In Our Future?
When they first came here they had short hours and closed early on Saturday night, no Sundays. Then They were open Sundays until about 5:00PM. Here are their current hours.

Monday - Friday 9am - 8pm
Saturday 9am - 7pm
Sunday 9am - 7pm

They probably found out quickly that Saturday and Sunday were some of the best days when you are that close to the race track. I have been in stores in Syracuse and ‘Albany Which were about one third larger.

Re: Wind Damage In Brittany Hills
Incompetence on the contractor, yep. My brother came close to signing with him until my wife stepped in. She had friends who went through hell with him and his mother when they used him. Pulled in another contractor to redo everything he did, cost thousands. He brought my bro through his own house in Foxwood Farms to show him how nice it was. My sister in law went to look up what the assessment was, not even his house. Come to find out it's his mother's house. And she must live there or at least she tells the taxman she does, it's star exempt. You can't trust people who lie.
                                                                                                                    July 18/14

New York State Wood Energy Team Secures Support from USDA Forest Service to Expand Bioenergy Outreach, Education and Project Development

Syracuse, NY -- July 16, 2014 -- Yesterday, United States Department of Agriculture/USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the New York State Wood Energy Team, led by the Empire State Forestry Foundation with support from the New York Biomass Energy Alliance, as one of 11 teams receiving cooperative agreements from the USDA Forest Service.

In New York, the Forest Service funding of $250,000, which leverages additional state and private investment, will be used to develop and hold workshops to provide technical, financial and environmental information; offer preliminary engineering assessments; and conduct community outreach needed to support the development of wood energy projects.

Successful applications for projects will receive technical assistance to access additional financing for design and construction from the Forest Service, the USDA, and the New York State Green Bank, among other sources.

‘The investment from the Forest Service will allow for a substantial outreach and education campaign that will support the existing bioenergy industry and New York State programs, such as Renewable Heat NY, by raising awareness and understanding of this local, affordable, renewable source of energy,’ says Alice Brumbach, executive administrator of the New York Biomass Energy Alliance. ’The New York State Wood Energy Team of dedicated and talented individuals from across the state and region will be working very hard over the next three years to move bioenergy to a mainstream renewable energy option for New Yorkers.’

The New York State Wood Energy Team will begin its outreach and education campaign over the next few months in the Catskill Region, the North Country and the Southern Tier. Contact Alice Brumbach, New York Biomass Energy Alliance, 607-316-3437, for more information on how you can become involved.

In addition to the Empire State Forestry Foundation and the New York Biomass Energy Alliance, the New York State Wood Energy Team consists of the Adirondack North Country Association, Catskill Forest Association, Clarkson University, Farm Credit East, Mesa Reduction Engineering & Processing, NYS Department of Environmental Conservation, Northern Forest Center, Richmond Energy Associates, Rick Handley & Associates, Southern Tier East Regional Planning Development Board, SUNY College of Environmental Science & Forestry, Tompkins County Cornell Cooperative Extension, and Yellow Wood Associates.

The advisory board to the New York State Wood Energy Team includes the New York Farm Viability Institute, NYS Department of Ag & Markets, NY Farm Bureau, New York State Wood Products Development Council, Finger Lakes National Forest, and USDA Forest Service.

To see the full list of states receiving Statewide Wood Energy Team cooperative agreements from the Forest Service, go to http://www.fs.fed.us/na/grants/index.shtml
                                                                                                                    July 18/14




Today's Quote, July 15/14

“I know I am getting better at golf because I am hitting fewer spectators.”
Gerald R. Ford







Check This Out
Mayor Gillen Authorizes the sale of the midtown parking to a corporation owned by Sutton Company for $1,000. (click on the resolution below) Now go to the website for the Sutton Real Estate Company LLC. Look under the column titled Property Management. The third name down is Roxanna Gillen. http://www.suttoncos.com/about/our-team.cfm

                                                                                                                    July 15/14

Well I guess know we know why the price was only 1,000. The resolution was sponsored by Myers and second by Kapelwicz. I guess this explains why Gillen was so quick to participate in Myer's resignation/reappointment scam.
Back about 2007 a person who was looking to purchase the Midtown Shoping Plaza came to the common council asking to buy the city owned Midtown Parking Lot/Garage. The council agreed upon a deal, which would have sold the parking lots for I believe 250,000 but it was contingent upon his purchase of the Plaza. That way you did not end up with separate owners and all the potential problems that might arise from that. For what ever reason the deal did not happen while I was in office. For once I guess Broadwell had a right to bitch after all.

Does anyone remember the sidewalk game of stinky fish in the 40's.. I believe it was called that. The small square with a dot in it in the sidewalk,and you had to go around that one or you were "it". Used on the way to school or movies in those days. Can't find it on the net…Oh the memories huh. ONW
                                                                                                                    July 15/14
Yes it was still ongoing in the 50s. I think they were actually surveyor’s marks.

Ritchie Secures $148,000 For Local Libraries
State Senator Patty Ritchie has announced she has secured $148,000 in special funding to help enhance services at libraries throughout Central and Northern New York.
Oswego Public Library: $3,000
Oswego County School Library System: $1,500
There should be sufficient money to pay off one tab, just enough to keep drinking, and there might be money left for that 'Tea Party' Reading Room.

Miles of 'Bad Roads' Becker May Now Be Able to Pay His Bar Tabs!
Ritchie Secures $148,000 For Local Libraries

State Senator Patty Ritchie has announced she has secured $148,000 in special funding to help enhance services at libraries throughout Central and Northern New York.
Oswego Public Library: $3,000
Oswego County School Library System: $1,500
There should be sufficient money to pay off one tab, just enough to keep drinking, and there might be money left for that 'Tea Party' Reading Room.
                                                                                                                    July 15/14

I have been trying to get the city to do something about the garbage in our neighborhood off and on since March. It seems to keep resufacing. On July 9th I notified Mr. Todd about the garbage and he informed me he would issue a work order the next morning. I have, also, notified the Mayor, Sue Deary, our legislator, Mr. Muclahey. I called the health department and spoke with Judy Naoti. Judy told me that the county has no control over the city. Of course, I still have to pay County taxes even though I live in the city. They all say they will look into it. As of today the garbage is still growing, along with a television and other junk. Where is Pat Kelly? Oh, I know zoning let her go because she was not doing her job. Who is doing the job now?
The County is talking about closing the dump and this is what this property looks like with the dump still open. Any one have suggestions how to solve the situation.
                                                                                                                    July 15/14

Perhaps if Councilor VanBuren spent less time kiss assing with the OFD and more time seeing to the quality of life in the sixth ward the prostitute would be gone.
                                                                                                                    July 15/14



City Of Oswego, NY Firefighter Arrested


Joseph Smegelsky, Jr. Was arrested after an investigation by the New York State Comptrollers Office and the New York State Police determined there was a "misappropriation of nearly $20,000 in department funds" at the Minetto, NY Volunteer Fire Dept. where he also served, as their Chief.




Here is the gross pay this HERO collected as an Oswego City Fireman.

2011 - $59,803
2012 - $59,392
2013 - $62,616

According to some media reports he has a side business going like all the other Oswego Heroes. I suppose their union president Mr. Geracy will be coming out with a statement telling us these things would not happen if only the firemen were paid a living wage.

 I am sure that if any of this information is incorrect Joey will send in another post and let all us asswipes know about it.


 Meanwhile let's take up a collection and buy him some soap on a rope.


Watch and see what happens next. I bet Gilligan gives him a paid vacation.



Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Waterbury is always behind in his taxes. Sterling was after him for that a year or two ago. This whole story about a bridge loan was supposed to put preassure on the town to let him open before he paid up. The same thing is probably going on at Sylvin Beach.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


fly-in pancake breakfast
The Experimental Aircraft Association chapter 486 and our local Civil Air Patrol squadron at Oswego County Airport are having a fly-in pancake breakfast on July 13th at the EAA hanger, just north of the airport main entrance on rt. 176 in Fulton. Enjoy pancakes, sausage, eggs, home fries, homemade donuts, coffee, juice, milk. All you can eat. Serving from 7:30 till noon.
Free real airplane rides for kids through the EAA young eagle program, weather permitting, and based on pilot availability. Cost: Adults $8, Seniors $6, children $4
Contact Bob Failmezger at 591-7778 for info.

                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.


                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Go to Google Maps or Bing Maps and type in the address. Then select “Street View”.
I see a nice deck on the right side of the house. Funny thing though the deck does not show up on the Oswego County Real Property Tax Records. Must be the Minetto Fire Chief is exempt from building permits and certain property taxes.

fly-in pancake breakfast
The Experimental Aircraft Association chapter 486 and our local Civil Air Patrol squadron at Oswego County Airport are having a fly-in pancake breakfast on July 13th at the EAA hanger, just north of the airport main entrance on rt. 176 in Fulton. Enjoy pancakes, sausage, eggs, home fries, homemade donuts, coffee, juice, milk. All you can eat. Serving from 7:30 till noon.
Free real airplane rides for kids through the EAA young eagle program, weather permitting, and based on pilot availability. Cost: Adults $8, Seniors $6, children $4
Contact Bob Failmezger at 591-7778 for info.

                                                                                                                    July 2/14





The Leotta Saga Continues

Here are a series of three letters sent between former mayor Cahill and former 3rd alderman John Canale. As you can see Cahill had only been in office a few months and he was already covering for  Leotta and refusing to release what should have been public information to an elected city official. Cahill was probably the biggest drunk to hold the office of mayor in recent memory with the possible exception of his protégé John Gosek.


Leotta has been put in charge of Sewers and the Treatment plants, the High Dam, Zoning and god knows what else yet he has no qualifications or certifications for any of these. In the coming weeks I hope to produce additional documents with questionable signatures and expose instances of crooked dealings through the zoning office.









Long before the LION, IO, and Eye On Oswego, there was another tell all media source.

SCRUTINY, was printed on a mimeograph and sold for the price of a nickel. This was radical for the time (in Oz) but kindled a fire which still burns today.


Continuing where SCRUTINY left off, the LION intends to pursue the corruption in the City Engineers/Zoning Office until Tony Leotta is fired or brought to justice. The following five pages from thirty-eight years ago only begin to tell the story of this lying sack or sh!t and those who have covered up for him. If you have had any dealings with this man or been a victim of the corruption in his office and wish to make it public email your stories, pictures, or what have you to editor@oswegonylion.com


All communications will be kept confidential.

As evidence is gathered it will be forwarded to the appropriate State and Federal authorities.








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RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


New York State Police
Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

Fulton, NY 13069



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