February 28/2017


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Today's  Quote  February 28/2017

Know your enemy.

Never under estimate your enemy.
Elliston Howard

Disturbing the Peace
Why am I being awakened by city workers chatting it up, along with the scraping of shovels on the pavement at 2AM? Some of us need to go to work in the morning! They were scraping shovels on pavement, but yet when daylight it, the debris
that has been sitting for a few days was left? During the late night hours, sounds travel! What is going on in this city?
                                                                                                                                                February 28/17

Fallen SEAL's father: 'Conscience' wouldn't let him meet Trump

                                                                                                                                                February 28/17

The wreck of the "Schooner Ontario."
That wack-job Mercedes Niess, the so-called Executive Director of the H Lee White Museum and the Board of Clowns, (Directors.) Got the title to the schooner and destroyed her!

For the last 2 years the schooner has been sitting up in Phoenix rusting away! The sails, the life jackets, the tools, the rigging ruined! How bad the is hull is damaged and the engine? No maintenance done on the schooner in over 2 years!

All those years of work done on the schooner by the volunteers was for nothing. Everything on that schooner was donated, all gone now...

                                                                                                                                                February 28/17

Schooner Ontario's mast. rotting away in the snow.
Every year when the "Schooner Ontario" was put away for the winter. The mast where taken off and stored inside a building and covered up. But now they have been left lying out in the elements. Might has chop them up for fire wood. But not anymore!
Thanks to the idiot! Mercedes Niess, the so-called Executive Director of the H Lee White Museum and the Board of Clowns, (Directors.)

                                                                                                                                                February 28/17

Hey all,
JC Penney's will be announcing in mid-March whether to keep the Oswego Plaza anchor store open. Although its decision may have already been made, the public has been known to influence such decisions. Please - if you value what Penney's brings to Oswego, take the time to call or write. The store is not merely a place to shop; it represents decency against a backdrop of discount retailers, tatoo parlors and the like that have sprouted up around town.
While we're on the subject, can someone please give our leaders a reality check? Are any of them trying to keep Penney's in Oswego? How about recruiting another large grocery store? Instead, I hear about the possibility of an indoor water park. Fanciful ideas that cost a lot of money and have little in the way of appeal.

                                                                                                                                                February 28/17






Today's  Quote  February 25-27/2017

“Come live with me and be my love, And we will all the pleasures prove,

That valleys, groves, hills, and fields, Woods, or steepy mountain yields”
Christopher Marlowe

Trump bans the press.
Trump swore an oath to uphold the *Constitution of the United States.* Now Trump violates the 1st Amendment. "Freedom of the Press."

                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

Funny as hell.
Someone was passing out little "Russian" flags at CPAC. (Now how did they get in there?) Putin and the Russians must be laughing their asses off.


                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17


Parking ban
Has the parking ban been lifted?
                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

Another assault on the constitution by the Republican Party.
The "press" has been banned at the White House. Now a bill is being introduced by Republicans to inhibit protesting. Also in this so-called "bill" it *INDEMNIFIES* (Holds harmless) the driver of vehicles that run over protesters. In other words, Republican supporter's, government agents, and nut jobs disguised as ordinary citizens can ram their vehicles into crowds and over people nothing will happen to them.

Welcome to 1984!


                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

Law Professors File Ethics Complaint Against Kellyanne Conway Over 'Lies'

                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

Sounds Good, But...
13 CNY Leaders Join Onondaga County Executive in Endorsing Governor’s Proposal to Empower Voters to Reduce Property Taxes
Written by Contributor, Feb 23, 2017,

SYRACUSE – Onondaga County Executive Joanie Mahoney today (Feb. 23) endorsed Governor Cuomo’s plan to reduce property taxes by empowering voters to approve locally-designed plans that deliver shared, coordinated services and lower the cost of local government.

***(Oswego can't even work with the town let alone the county).

The Governor’s groundbreaking proposal would require county executives to convene local government to meetings to develop shared service plans that reduce duplicative spending and find real, recurring property tax savings.

***(May require executives, but this means nothing if they don't like a proposal).

“Property taxes remain one of the most burdensome taxes in New York, and by challenging local governments to work together to streamline services and lower taxes, this groundbreaking initiative will empower voters and reduce taxes in Central New York and across the state,” Governor Cuomo said. “I look forward to partnering with these Central New York leaders to develop plans to reduce inefficiencies and provide real savings to property taxpayers.”

***(Empower voters? It may bring a necessary vote on a proposal, but not sure it will do anything for the taxpayer. Someone always wants something. And, that costs).

The Governor’s proposal empowers municipalities to develop plans that eliminate duplicative services, lower the costs of local governments, and ease the burden on taxpayers. Plans should enhance purchasing power, such as jointly purchasing and coordinating the use of expensive transportation or emergency equipment.

***(I agree, but again, Oswego has proven to not want to work with the town, let alone the county. As well, it is still spending)!

He has also committed to match savings achieved by local governments in the first year. These shared service plans will not impact AIM funding included in the FY 2018 Executive Budget for towns, villages and cities.

***(More spending)!

The following Central New York local leaders joined her in endorsing the Governor’s proposal to reduce property taxes and the cost of local government:
Oswego County Legislature Chairman Kevin Gardner
City of Oswego Mayor William Barlow
Town of Oswego Supervisor Richard Kaulfuss
Oswego County Legislature Minority Leader Frank Castiglia
Oswego County Legislator Daniel Farfaglia
As well as:
Madison County Board of Supervisors Chairman John Becker
Cayuga County Legislature Chairman Keith Batman
Cortland County Legislature Chairman Donnell Boyden
City of Cortland Mayor Brian Tobin
City of Oneida Mayor Leo Matzke
Village of Canastota Mayor Carla DeShaw
Village of Wampsville Mayor John Clute
Village of Solvay Mayor Ron Benedetti

***(All being on board means nothing! Why is it in Oswego, that we have 3 paid employees on a school bus)?

Gardner said, “Fiscal responsibility is one of the essential pillars of governing, and this proposal will ensure that we find every opportunity to cut costs and serve our residents better. Governor Cuomo’s plan is an innovative way to lower the burden of property taxes on Oswego County home- and business-owners and empower voters to have a say in how their government functions. I look forward to working together to find real savings for taxpayers.”

***(Real savings? Why is it that in Oswego, we don't even try to have any savings? Just more hiring in city hall. We are paying for weeds! And just to add to this...Round-up is now labeled in the state of California to be an agent of causing cancer, the judges have ruled! Be aware that if Oswego continues spraying this in the parks, your pets and children are at risk)!!!

Mahoney said, “Governor Cuomo has made reducing the property tax a priority since he took office, and his shared services proposal is a promising new opportunity to continue the progress we have made together. By empowering local leaders, the Governor has called on municipalities to come together and find ways to streamline government and reduce costs. I look forward to meeting with local governments across the county to have an open dialogue about ways to relieve the burden of property taxes for Onondaga County residents.”

***(When it comes to Oswego, are we going to get rid of our overpaid fire dept, and use volunteer service? Why is it we need the ambulance service, when Mentor does more and is paid less)?

Plans will be developed by county executives working together with local government:
• County executive convenes one or more meetings to obtain suggestions and hear comments on county shared service plan.
• Cities, towns and villages must provide plans to the counties.
• County executive submits his or her shared services plan to the legislature for comments.
• County executive shared services plan is then submitted to voters for their action in a referendum at the general election in November of 2017.
• If the plan is rejected, the county executive would prepare a new plan for submission to the electorate for a second vote in November of 2018.

***(This will not cost anything)?

Reducing New York’s burdensome property taxes has been a priority of Governor Cuomo and his administration, leading to actions such as the Property Tax Cap and Property Tax Freeze, saving taxpayers more than $17 billion through 2016.
Mandate Relief for New York Municipalities
Since 2011, Governor Cuomo has held state spending growth below 1.4 percent, the lowest spending of any Governor since before Nelson Rockefeller. Outstanding debt has also been lowered for the past four years, and the Governor has continued to provide significant mandate relief for counties, towns, villages and cities across the state.
These efforts include:
• Saving local governments $3.2 billion in 2018 by capping the cost of Medicaid growth;

***(So, those in need are going to go without, while big business is being taxed less).

• Reforming the state’s pension system to save the State and local governments more than $80 billion over the next 30 years;


• Requiring arbitration panels consider a municipality’s ability to pay certain local contracts;
• Authorizing local shared services, like allowing up to three school districts with fewer than 1,000 students each to share a school superintendent; and

***(The super will do this with no pay increase? Again, pennies).

• Providing local governments with expanded procurement options, such as the authority to “piggyback” on Federal General Services Administration contracts and county public works contracts as a way to reduce costs for local governments.

***(Still more spending, only this time at the fed level).

The Property Tax Burden in New York
Included in Governor Cuomo’s FY 2018 Executive Budget, the shared services proposal will build on mandate relief and local government efficiency programs recently established by the Governor, including the Municipal Restructuring Fund and the Municipal Consolidation and Efficiency Competition.
The property tax is the largest tax burden for New Yorkers across the state, with the typical taxpayer paying 2.5 times more in property taxes than in income taxes.

***(And, the income tax is one of the highest in the country).

Westchester, Nassau and Rockland rank among the five highest counties in the nation for the cost of property taxes, and in terms of property taxes paid as a share of home value, 13 of the 15 highest-taxed counties are in New York, primarily upstate, with Wayne, Monroe and Cattaraugus among the highest in the country.
Though property taxes are controlled by local governments, the Governor has made it a priority to help reduce the burden property taxes for all New Yorkers.

***(Property taxes are the result of the school systems. In Oswego, we have more teachers and less enrollment than in previous years. And, the future holds the same. Yet, some of the highest taxes in the state).

The Property Tax Cap is at the center of these efforts, and aided by more than $100 million in State efficiency programs, it has driven local governments to control costs and save the typical homeowner $2,100 through 2016.

***(Typical homeowner? As well, more than $100,000,000 in "efficiency" programs is part of the problem...big govt).

When combined with the Property Tax Freeze, the Property Tax Cap has saved taxpayers more than $17 billion through 2016.


This initiative builds on local government efficiency programs established earlier by Governor Cuomo, including the Citizens Re-Organization and Empowerment Grant and the Citizens Empowerment Tax Credit.

***(Local govt efficiency programs? Someone has to do that job)!

Together they aim to not only empower citizens, but also to give local governments the tools they need to remain compliant with the Property Tax Cap.

***(The tools needed are a mindset of the people...stop spending)!!!

***(To add, this is an election year for Cuomo!!! Anything coming out of his mouth is for re-election)!

***This all sounds grand. But, in order for any savings to be had, means spending less, period! Too many teachers, school aides, bus monitors. Everyone needs to be working with each other, all city spending stops, and becomes more "efficient," income tax drops, more work for the middle class instead of people leaving, and no more added taxes by the city, towns, and counties! Just my thoughts.
                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

Our First Lady of Bunions & Toenail Fungus
This is my humble contribution to the mini-Trump memes of the world..
with the added mention of our first lady's obvious foot problems do to her forced choice of concubine footwear. I count 8 bunions on her right foot and toenail fungus on 3 toes.. but who cares? check out those silicone Montañas!
Chico Ramirez

                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

White House Refuses To Guarantee People Won't Lose Health Insurance From Repeal

                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

There's a dangerous situation at Oswego's, H Lee White Museum

Mercedes Niess, Executive Director and the HLWMM Board of Trustees have allowed a “cabin cruiser” that weighs several tons to be placed on “cinder blocks,” who's fool idea was this? And stored the cabin cruiser at Oswego , NY , H Lee White Museum in Oswego , NY . Then built “a 2x4 frame,” covered it with a tarp, and tied it to a chain link fence. Brilliant the winds that come in off that lake in the winter... Which over the course of the winter the winds tore the tarp off the wooden frame and pulled the chain link fence away from it’s supports.

People and children go down to the museum and walk around. This “cabin cruiser” is leaning and could slide off on someone. This BIG LAWSUIT waiting to happen against Mercedes Niess, and the Trustees, the so called Board of Directors at the H Lee White Museum and the owner of the cabin cruiser, "Sea Food."

                                                                                                                                                February 25-27/17

You are wasting your time there. She is another whacko.






Today's  Quote  February 24/2017

“You can tell the size of a man by the size of the thing that makes him mad.”
Adlai E. Stevenson

Game over for Trump!
Trump lawyer discussed Ukraine deal

                                                                                                                                                February 24/17

Trash Took Itself Out
Syracuse Ave. hooker and drug dealer, lynsay Horton Haskins now resides in the Wayne County Jail. Those concerned have been "hoing" (pun intended) out her apartment at 218 Syracuse Ave., owned by Lyman Reed and his lovely wife, Nicole. It appears she will not be returning to this residence. Word to the wise, think before you rent this apartment, her clients most likely will be around seeking her services..........just sayin'
                                                                                                                                                February 24/17

Look what money can buy...

                                                                                                                                                February 24/17

When you look like that                               money is the only way you get this.


Just a Thought
The City of Oswego, NY ,could save some monies, if they retired the FireFighters after 20 years ! Because they receive FULL benefits after 20 years of service ! I believe this is called a cycle ! And in all of example, you could have MORE FireFighters on duty at a lower pay scale, If you let the FireFighters RETIRE at the STATE GUIDE LINES or civil workers contract ! But I guess Chief M .had all of this figured into his made up budget !
Once again, the City of Oswego,NY is behind 40 years in construction, saving taxpayers monies, and thinking that the way this city can develop, is through tourism and not 52 a week jobs !
                                                                                                                                                February 24/17








Today's  Quote  February 23/2017

“The cost of liberty is less than the price of repression.”
W. E. B. Du Bois

McCrobie Finally Gone; 25 Years too Late
Poor picked on Chief McCrobie is crying because he was called out for being a lousy chief and the main reason that his friends (the more senior members of the OFD) got all the overtime . This was usually 7-9 senior members of the OFD stealing overtime to boost their retirement, and McCrobie let it go on for years. Information given to the council and the mayor finally fell in the hands of someone that called McCrobie out!
The Mayor must not put in a new chief from the OFD, as this will be an open check book for the next chief, that was trained by McCrobie to rob the system. It was good to see that the picture in the paper had McCrobie properly dressed, instead of in his tee shirt, shorts and sandals, that he usually is dressed in for public meetings.
Maybe the next chief can dress and look like what a chief is supposed to look like. Good bye and good riddance to you McCrobie......enjoy sharing your retirement with your ex-wife......
                                                                                                                                                February 23/17

More Scriba Issues
I went to the board meeting last week and found out we are having a creamatorium for commercial creamations being built at Riverside Cemetary. Several property owners asked to speak and voice their concerns on the location which is up front by the road. They have legitimate concerns and want it built somewhere further back on the 150 acres that the cemetary owns.
When all was said and done, Carroccoli commented to one of the property owners who spoke, that he took personal offense to some of the points this gentleman brought up and was out of line with his questions and so on.
Who the hell does this unethical lawyer think he is. He answers everything for the town board !
And then his announcement about the absence of Ken Burdick from his job being acceptable because of the stage being set in 1955 with president Nelson Rockafeller, are you kidding me !! It's ok for elected officials to hang on to their office and there is really nothing the public can do.
Sewer taxes were a concern for some residents who are on city sewer, they are getting raped, but Carroccoli is working on it while he's the lawyer for the city also, wonderful.
There only seems to be one council person that takes an interest in our town and our people, and will ask questions where appropriate, and vote as she see's fit for our best interest, hats off to her. None of the rest seem to care and look actually bored.

                                                                                                                                                February 23/17

The Parking Ban.
Is it really necessary?
The snow has depleted, and the lawns in Oswego look like crap. All tore up from parking and plowing on them. This year, the plows have only needed to plow 8 times during the parking ban hours, 12 nights last year. Some of this plowing was just pushing water. We the taxpayers must endure months of off street parking, just to hinder us and make Oswego look like crap. Why is any parking ban needed? Five months of off street parking, for about 8 nights of plowing. Ban won't be lifted, and spring is near. Sure, there may be more snow coming, but why do we need any off street parking ordinance? It took the council more days to come up with what they call a solution to a problem, than the number of times it was needed to plow during these times. A problem, I think not. Unless, we're talking about another month of tearing up lawns. I wonder, do you think the mayor or council ever looked into the amount of times the plows needed to be out. Surely not. Its just been small mind thinking.
                                                                                                                                                February 23/17

Cuomo's Got To Go
Cuomo's got to go, before everyone else has to leave. More taxes, for a handful of jobs. Ridiculous.


                                                                                                                                                February 23/17

Oswego Council Moving Toward Paperless Meeting

                                                                                                                                                February 23/17

'Military-Style' Firearms Aren't Protected By Second Amendment, Court Rules

                                                                                                                                                February 23/17










Today's  Quote  February 22/2017

"It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."
Chuck Palahniuk


Force Trump to pay for is own security!
The New York City Police Department says it spends $500,000 a day just to protect the president’s midtown residence

at Trump Tower .

Schumer, the Senate Democratic leader, inserted himself into the debate on Sunday, saying it costs $500,000 per day for nearly 200 police officers to protect Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, which houses the Trump family business headquarters and serves as the home of the first lady, Melania Trump, and the couple’s son, Barron. The senator estimated the cost could rise to as much as $183m annually.



                                                                                                                                                February 22/17

Trump parties and campaigns in Florida while California floods and people drowned

                                                                                                                                                February 22/17


Conway makeup
You nailed the picture of Conway with and without her make up. Looks just like here either way. With both pictures I can say neither are FAKE news. Keep up the good work
                                                                                                                                                February 22/17








Today's  Quote  February 21/2017

“It seems to be a law of nature, inflexible and inexorable, that those who will not risk cannot win.”
John Paul Jones

Still alive and kicking.
Thanks for the inquiring e-mails.
I had to have some repairs done on a broken wrist that did not heal right.
For the time being I'm one handing the keyboard and using a voice to text program.


Kellyanne Conway

                                                                                                                                                February 21/17

The Heist
I learned of the Heist bar this site and went and checked it out a few times and really enjoyed it, they did a nice job on the interior and the bands or singers sounded very good because the ceiling is pretty high . i dont drink so i would like to see more coffee and tea options though. it was a friendly staff and great location and believe it or not there is parking behind the bar great job to who ever built it! looking forward to going back.... when folks use this site to rant about how bad something is go check it out you might be surprised and realize a lot of this site is fake news..... as for Trump he is doing what we sent him to do take a wrecking ball to Washington! God bless America we will make it great again

This site does not support business owned or operated by pimps, perverts, drug dealers, convicted felons, child molesters or white trash scum.


Near the beginning of the election of 2012 I posted a notice that anyone sending in what is now called the fake news without fact checking would be given three chances and then would be barred from the site. This is something we now see Twitter and Facebook embracing after Trump and his racist supporters have stolen the election of 2016. As I recall three or four people were actually barred back then.

Last year the national media jumped all over anything that came out of the mouth of this asshole Trump. They more than anyone else helped to create this monster which some people choose to call the president. It only serves them right that he now calls them the enemy of the people.

Today I am notifying all posters of a new policy. This site will not post any propaganda, bull shit, lies, or half truths generated by this lying sack of shit Trump his mignons or the Republican party in general.






Today's  Quote  February 16-20/2017

“No man has the right to dictate what other men should perceive, create or produce, but all should be encouraged to reveal themselves, their perceptions and emotions, and to build confidence in the creative spirit.”
Ansel Adams


Kellyane seems to be really happy here. This was just after Matt Louer
ripped her a new @ss when she got all tangled up in here constant lies.
Right after that, she tweeted to a white supremacist group that she loved them
and will continue with her HATE campaign, along with Bannon and Trump.
Conway not only retweeted the message but also wrote, "Love you back," and wished her "Hapless Haters" a happy Valentine's Day. Lib Hypocrisy is an explicit promoter of white nationalism and other bigotry.

                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17


Just another gargoyle in Trumps freak show.

"Zoning" minds

Everything stated in this article just stinks! For starters, why was the cost estimate in the budget set at $60,000 for this zoning "fix?" Someone was guessing or just didn't know what the hell they were doing. Now, it comes in at a cost of $105,000. Why? And, since there is such a difference in the costs, why is it that we are using this law firm? Was it even looked into? It couldn't have been. We're just throwing numbers around. Who came up with the $60,000 guess? Because, that is exactly what it had to be, a guess. There is a $45,000 difference! This is terrible management and management starts at the top with the mayor. It looks as if this administration hasn't a clue. Now, it is stated that the burden lye on the taxpayer. And, where is Caracioli on this matter? Money is being taken and re-directed in different ways. There is no sound judgement or plan that is thought out or looked into. This is, and should be looked into at the state level. And, everything for downtown, why? There is nothing downtown and there will never be anything downtown! It is stated that this will bring businesses to downtown. No, anyone in their right mind would never open a business in the downtown area. In 3-5yrs, that business is sure to go under. The business is out east and will be for decades to come. The city is just giving into the likes of the Broadwells and Pauldines, that's it. What is funny, is that everyone at city hall focuses their attention on "downtown," the west side only. Why not the east side of the river being thought of as part of downtown? Small minds.
                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Oswego Hires Firm To Facilitate Zoning Code Update

Van buren's face fur does nothing for him.

                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Is Russia's Arctic presence 'aggressive?'
Shared from BBC News:

                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death Of Common Sense

Rt and GT went to the store to buy cigarettes according to Todd.
RT's transaction was at 7:42 for 2 packs.

Where is GT's transaction for his cigarettes he bought> RT's girlfriend said he came home with 2 packs. There should be a transaction close to RT's on the cash register tape showing another sale of cigarettes. Wouldn't be after because the cops are convinced RT was the last customer. So GT's must have been before his purchase....buy no mention of this from cops or Duell. Take in the fact that there was only one person there with the bros....Swenkowski, and he said he never saw GT at the store.

Does the OCSD make things up as they go along or do they use facts? Because there isn't on valuable fact to this crime that they have produced...all lies. Not even circumstantial as someone had to see RT & GT enter the store, the go in and see that HA was gone. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.

Anyone have any idea of how much the real suspects were paid to do this? " I will never do one day in prison for what we did to Heidi Allen"...James Steen. Someone is protecting him and themselves and it isn't that hard to fiigure out.
                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Career Asshole
Arrest No.: 2017-96 Arrest Date: 02/07/2017 Arrest Time: 03:17
Last: WEIGAND First: JOSEPH Middle/Suffix: EARL
Address: HOMELESS Bldg: Apt:
City: FULTON State: NY Zip: 13069_____
DOB: 03/04/1963 Arresting Officer: THOMAS YAWGER
On 02/07/2017 at approximately 3:17 A.M, while at 717 W. Broadway
apartment B-11, the defendant, Joseph E. Weigand, was arrested for the
offenses of menacing in the third degree and criminal mischief in the fourth
It is alleged that on the above stated date and location, at approximately
2:30 A.M, the said defendant engaged in a domestic dispute with the victim.
During such dispute the defendant did take the victim’s phone and place it
underneath his body to prevent the victim from contacting emergency services.
Furthermore, the defendant did raise his fist to the victim in a threatening manner
and stated that he would kill her if she called 911. Such actions by the defendant
did place the victim in fear of physical injury or death.
Arrest No.: 2017-97 Arrest Date: 02/07/2017 Arrest Time: 06:49
Last: WEIGAND First: JOSEPH Middle/Suffix: EARL
Address: HOMELESS Bldg: Apt:
City: FULTON State: NY Zip: 13069_____
DOB: 03/04/1963 Arresting Officer: KENNETH SHELDON
The said defendant, Joseph E. Weigand, on February 7, 2017 while at 141
S. First St. was arrested for Criminal Tampering in the 3rd Degree.
It is alleged that on the above stated date and location while being held in
cell #1 awaiting arraignment for a domestic incident, began throwing water
around the cell area, throwing wet toilet paper on the walls and floor,
urinating on the floor, and on at least two occasions placed his bare anus on
the cell bars. Said actions did cause substantial inconvenience as the cell
area needed to be cleaned thoroughly.
                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Trump is a night nightmare
Trump family’s elaborate lifestyle is a ‘logistical nightmare’ — at taxpayer expense - The Washington Post



                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

I Just came from down town, I noticed many places not shoveled, mostly taverns. The Sting, the Raven, Alley Cats(which they were given money to have the building redone), Franco’s Pizza, the two places around the corner, which I have heard Franco now owns, Calios, 2 Cans and The Wheel, among other businesses. I was going to ask why aren’t these places not being made to clean their walks, it was 1pm and they weren’t cleaned! I have also heard many home owners were receiving letters to shovel their properties or the city would do it and charge the home owners. Really, I also noticed that City Hall and The Conway building weren’t shoveled either. 1pm and City Hall wasn’t cleared off, the steps had a path up to the door made by people walking. What if someone slips and falls, who’s liable? What a great job our DPW head is doing, did The Mayor walk into the building today, if so he should have immediately called Kells and had it done! They want to put $10,000,000 into downtown, the people there can’t even shovel their sidewalks and you’re going to give them money to improve their buildings? For City Hall not to be shoveled is inexcusable, that’s the main building in the city for people to do city business, that should be the first place being shoveled! Priorities people!!
                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Denying Abortion A Form Of Violence Against Women: Monsef

Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/02/16/maryam-monsef-planned-parenthood-funding_n_14801714.html?ncid=engmodushpmg00000006

                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Thank You !

This site gives a person to vent or rant! People might give or use this site as a release valve ! We also have to keep in mind that not everyone might be good at the keyboard. It might be a handicap person, it might be a retired person, or maybe a high school student or college, so with that being said, let’s give some slack, okay ?
                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

House Overturns Obama-Era Law to Protect Alaskan Bears and Wolves
Lawmakers Introduce Legislation To Strengthen Criminal Law Regarding Assault



                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Oswego man charged with DWAI-drugs in Kirkville


                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Trump partying in Florida. while people are drowning and dying in California.
Donald Trump as President of the United States should have been touring the flood damage in California. BUT NO!!! Trump as usual just thinking about himself. Campaigning!? People are dying and Trump is campaigning, and partying in Florida!

Trump should have been in Europe at the "Munich Security Conference!" But no again, Trump is campaigning in Florida. Impeach Trump NOW!

And remember! The 2018 midterm elections are coming.
                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Here's the people blocking Trump's tax returns.
Call their offices and demand to see Trumps tax returns. And if they ignore you. If they are up for midterm reelection vote them out of office. and tell them this in your phone calls.



                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

katko campaign bragged he works both sides of the isle yea right.
3 on the hot seat: Katko's town hall bind, Miner's PR pro, NY's pricey signs (Editorial) | syracuse.com


                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17

Caraccioli Lied to the Town of Oswego
Saturday's Pal-Times had an interesting letter about a conflict of interest involving Kevin Caracccioli , Oswego City Attorney. What Carraccioli did when he negotiated a sewer contract acting as the Oswego Town Attorney, as well as the Oswego City Attorney is unethical. This question came up at the Oswego Town Planning Board Meeting (below) and Craraccioli lied through his teeth. He told the board that his Assistant Tom Reynolds was doing the negations for the city and the Town Board bought the lie. It is still the office of the city attorney and Carraccioli cannot diverse himself from that responsibility!
Planning Board-Town of Oswego-Planning Board Draft Minutes, December 19, 2016
Questions arose as to any conflict of interest as pertaining to Atty' Caraccioli acting as Town attorney as well as City of Oswego attorney'. Stephen Green Jr' is the attorney of record for the Planning Board. Attorney Caraccioli offered explanation and believes there is no conflict. (in his mind only)
                                                                                                                                                February 16-20/17







Today's  Quote  February 15/2017

“Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”
Frederick Douglass

In reply to property tax in Scriba:
Perhaps all Scriba residents should attend the monthly meeting at Town Hall, this is the third Wednesday of every month. This month it will be February 15th at 6:30 pm. These meetings are always the third Wednesday of the month and are held at 6:30 pm unless otherwise advertised under legal notice in the Pall -Times.

Something else to be talked about would be why Mr. Burdick is allowed to be in Florida for the past 4 months or so and be paid by the tax payers, when it is in question whether or not he is "fit for duty"? Why should the tax payers have to pay him to run the Town when he is physically not here to do his job?
                                                                                                                                                February 15/17

Trump sticks it to the tax payers.

Trump reportedly heading to Mar-a-Lago for third straight weekend, obliterating campaign promise
                                                                                                                                                February 15/17

Confirmed - Trump is unfit to be POTUS, and Trump has the nuclear codes!

                                                                                                                                                February 15/17






Today's  Quote  February 14/2017

“Since the masses are always eager to believe something, for their benefit nothing is so easy to arrange as facts.”
Charles M. de Talleyrand

Trump vs. Truth: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

Donald Trump spreads a lot of false information thanks to his daily consumption of morning cable news. If only we could sneak some facts into the president’s...

                                                                                                                                                February 14/17







Today's  Quote  February 13/2017

“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”
Abraham Lincoln


by George M. Clark

To reinforce British presence, at a strategic location, in 1755 Fort Ontario was constructed on an eminence at the easterly confluence of the Oswego River and Lake Ontario. In 1756 the fort was destroyed by the French and rebuilt by the British in 1759. Americans put the ungarrisoned post to the torch in 1778. The fort lay in ruins until the spring of 1782 when His Majesty’s troops, under the command of Major Ross, re-occupied the post. Upon arrival they proceeded to repair and make habitable the “Guardian of the Northern Frontier.”

Intelligence of this operation reached Washington and gave him great concern. The possibility of enemy troops using the fort as a staging area for further intrusions into the Mohawk Valley was foremost on his mind. He now had to devise a plan to capture and destroy the works; a secret mission to be entrusted to a loyal and gallant commander.

Toward the end of November, Colonel Marinus Willett, having seen to winter barracks for his New York regiment at Fort Rensselaer on the Mohawk River, set out for Fishkill. The purpose of his journey was to meet his wife, intending to return with her to his quarters for the winter. While in the area he decided to visit General Washington at his headquarters in Newburgh. The Colonel was invited to stay for dinner, which he did, and at its close Washington asked him to step into his office. A conversation ensued concerning an undisclosed expedition to Oswego; the location of Fort Ontario. This was the first time that an opening ever presented itself to Colonel Willett of a chance of procuring fame,that his heart did not vibrate with joy. He had intended to spend a comfortable winter with his wife, but his loyalty to Washington and dedication to duty would overshadow his own pleasures.

In about a week, following their meeting, Willett wrote to Washington in favor of the enterprise and accepted responsibility for carrying out the most secret task of preparing for a winter campaign in the harsh region of the Northern Frontier on Lake Ontario. Further correspondence developed between Washington and Willett which, because of its highly sensitive nature, was written in the former’s own handwriting.

On December 18th, Washington ordered to proceed with the assembling of vests, woolen hose, caps, socks, mittens and blankets, for use by troops in the extremely cold climate. Willett was to provide for a sufficient number of Indian shoes or moccasins. Washington was also locating snow shoes which might be useful for the journey. The force was also to be equipped with axes, saws, augers and a gouge, which would be used to construct scaling ladders for entering the fort.

On January 22, 1783 Willett was informed by the General that the Rhode Island regiment, of African-American troops, had been placed under his direction. On February 8th the combined force, of approximately 500 troops with 120 horse-drawn sleighs, left Fort Herkimer on the German Flats; near the present day City of Utica. On the 9th, during the night, they pushed across Oneida Lake leaving the sleighs on the north shore, which is now Brewerton. They walked on the ice covered rivers, for the most part, until they reached Oswego Falls, now the City of Fulton, at about 2:00 P.M. the next day. Eight scaling ladders were constructed at this place and all necessary preparations for entering the enemy’s works were completed. The officers were informed of each role the troops under their immediate command would play in the assault. At approximately 10:00 P.M., that evening, they reached a point on the Oswego River, about four miles from the fort, between present day Seneca Hill and the city limits of Oswego. Here it was decided, that because of the weakness of the ice and the possibility of discovery, to climb the extremely high east bank of the river and travel concealed through the woods.

Willett had procured a young Oneida Indian, called Captain John, and two other guides, whose purpose was to lead the party to within sight of the post. They would strike in the dead of the night and quoting Washington’s order, “From having recourse to the almanack (sic), I am led to wish that the night for the attack may not be delayed beyond the 12th inst.; as I find that the setting of the moon, (even at that time), approached so near day-light, that the intervening space is short, and consequently must be very critical; as accidents unforeseen, and consequently unprovided for, may embarrass your movements towards the works, and retard the attack of them beyond the hour designed, to the entire disappointment of the plan.”

The element of surprise was also a prime factor in Washington’s plan and of this he said, “I wish to impress it upon you, that if you do not succeed by surprize (sic), the tempt will be unwarrantable. The wounds received in the former, more than probable, will be trifling. Every plausible deception should be used to mask the object of your expedition to the latest moment. Your movements afterwards should be quick, and pains must be taken to discover, by tracks or otherwise, whether intelligence has outgone (sic) you. If you should be fully convinced of this, the further prosecution of the enterprise (sic) would not only be fruitless, but might prove injurious.”

Being approximately four miles from their objective and having four hours time left before the moon set, which was the time fixed for entering the fort, the expectations of success were extremely high. Willett’s attention was then given to encouraging the men on the march, especially those who were carrying ladders because of the freezing temperatures, depth of the snow and difficulties of navigating through the woods at night; not having the slightest worry that the guides would not lead them to their purpose, with time to spare. However, his attention became quickly focused on this, following two hours being expended and not yet discovering an opening through the woods.

Captain John, the Indian guide, was following tracks made from snow shoes; believing they would most certainly lead to the fort. Instead, they led the command into a thicket with deep snow and then through a swamp, which was south of the present day Hall Road. To make matters worse some of the men’s feet became frozen in the mud; they were lost!

As daybreak rapidly approached Willett’s troops found themselves on high ground; now called Oak Hill. From this vantage point they could see the prize about three quarters of a mile before them; Fort Ontario. However, keeping in mind Washington’s explicit orders, Willett decided to terminate the incursion and withdraw. Now all that was left to do was for the soldiers to make their way back to the river and start the long and arduous march back.

Upon arrival at Fort Rensselaer, Pliny Moore, Willett’s adjutant, wrote to his father of the venture, “We return from our unsuccessful expedition to Oswego the 18th at evening after as fatiguing a March I believe as has been since the War we were nine nights in the woods without seeing a House, marched Thiry Six Hours without one hours intermission & as long at another item with but about three Hours Halt for Refeshment & to compleat our disappointment when our hopes were most Sanguine after marching all day & all night Cold fatiguid & many of us frozen.....” (sic)

This mounting of a Winter campaign, in the traitorous northern region of New York, was unparalleled. Coupled with a forced march during blizzards and freezing temperatures, the hardships endured by these brave men were insufferable. Dogs that followed the troops on the march had been shot, along the way, so their barking would not warn the garrison when the attackers reached the fort. When provisions ran out during the return, the frozen bodies of these animals were dug out of the snow and used for food. At least two men froze to death and over 130 cases of frost bite were reported.

In a letter dated March 5, 1783 to Colonel Marinus Willett, General George Washington said of the expedition, “The failure, it seems, must be attributed to some of those unaccountable events which are not within the control of human means; .... I cannot omit expressing to you the high sense I entertain of your perservering the exertions and zeal on this expedition; and beg you to accept my warm thanks on the occasion; and that you will be pleased to communicate my gratitude to the officers and men who acted under your command, for the share they had in that service.”

An agreement for the cessation of hostilities between Great Britain and the United States of America was reached November 30, 1782 and was officially proclaimed by George the III on February 14, 1783; the formal peace treaty was not signed until September 3rd of that year.

The War for Independence, after eight long years of desperate fighting, would end in a fizzle on the Northern Frontier. The failure of Willett’s Raiders to capture Fort Ontario would leave it and its environs controled by the British for thirteen years after the war.

A Narrative of the Military Actions of Colonel Marinus Willett, William M, Willett, 1831
The Pictorial Field Book of the Revolution, Benson J. Lossing, 1859
A History of Negro Troops in the War of the Rebellion, Geroge Washington Williams, 1888
Letters from General George Washington to Colonel Marinus Willett; 1783
Letters from Colonel Marinus Willett to General George Washington; 1783
Major Alexander Thompson’s letter 1783
Adjutant Pliny Moore’s letter; 1783
                                                                                                                                                February 13/17

Scriba Surprise
I find it hard to feel sorry for the people who are now getting an increase in your taxes in Scriba. You people have reaped the benefit from low taxes over the past 35 years, and now that the nuclear plants are on the edge of shutdown and you have to pick up your fair share of taxes, you start with the poor me attitude. Maybe you can ask your worthless Town of Scriba legislators (Broadwell and Gardner) what they are going to do for you other than spend $40,000 on a study to let them know what they should have done from the beginning. Maybe you can ask them why they took $2,600,000 from the reserve fund to balance the county budget which helped raise your taxes. Maybe Mr. Caraocolli, who is running Scriba Town (Burdick missing in action), can give back some of the money he got for negotiating a deal with Fitzpatrick, that is now raising your taxes. Ask him about that and the scam he ran when he did the sewer deal with the town of Oswego, while he is the sitting attorney for the City of Oswego. You better brace yourself for another tax increase (sewer fees) when Caraocoli negotiates the new sewer deal with the city for Scriba, where your rate will go up by another 15% and he will be paid by the town of Scriba and the city violating all kinds of ethics rules, and nobody on the town board or the city will question his ethics. Welcome to the screwing the rest of us have felt while you got the benefit of low taxes because of the Nuclear plants, which will be all closed in the next 10 years.
                                                                                                                                                February 13/17

RE: Hello to Everyone
You wrote a very compelling post regarding how President Stanley depicts SUNY Oswego as an ambassador to the forefront. I agree.
Yes, it is very well known, acknowledged, and agreed upon, that she has only one thing on her mind as she reigns supreme on campus: HERSELF. I am sorry you were treated in a rude manner, I am sure you did not deserve that.

You are correct in your comment about only selective people are held accountable for their actions. And 'an education has amplified your (Pres. Stanley's) distaste for people she believes are less than her...'

This brings to mind the situation a bit over a year ago when the yelling and screaming took place on the 7th floor of Culkin hall, leading to Laurie C. being basically 'fired'. Yes, the same as a continuous stream of Provosts before her were outed by the same President. The rumor? Wide spread concession was that the Pres. could not stand for anyone to shine more than herself. And Laurie did shine. Well liked, wonderful performance, and she was moving forward. That was the unforgivable that she was let go for. Of course the search, hire, move of a new out of state Provost cost many thousands... So it goes. Then, of course, there was the investigation held at the Metro Center branch of SUNY Oswego. This entailed why the President had such high end and exorbitant furnishings in her rented (not SUNY Owned) office there. Why, when she used this office space so very infrequently, was a renovation allowed so close to the last reno? To the expense to public? Again, thousands.

Only some are held accountable-Clearly not just the SUNY Pres, but so many others....Directors, and those in basic positions who are FAVORED, who can act as they please and not be held accountable. They can come and go-they can treat others with disdain, and even with a current of hostile behavior. And yet, the campus screams their compliance with fairness in these issues. There is a big show of Title IX, and of Diversity and Inclusion, with a new Chief Officer being hired.

Why are the Oswego residents and taxpayers and public- paying for the salary of these type of positions, when the real theme there running rampant is: Cronyism, and nepotism and freedom of the elite selection ?

The next time you or any of us are snubbed by Deborah S. why not mention to her ON THE SPOT-the published definition of the public duties and policy she is responsible for ....by the new diversity and inclusion officer - 'they seek to make sure that no one at SUNY Oswego will be marginalized for any reason, whether age, class, culture, disability, ethnicity, gender, nationality, race, religion, sexual identity, sexual orientation or socioeconomic status. '

This is a nice way of the campus saying no one is better than anyone else, rich, poor, whatever. So, our SUNY Oswego president needs to comply!

AND- the Title IX federal anti- discrimination law adopted by SUNY Oswego is parallel to this. The published definition reads
The goal of SUNY Oswego is to nurture members' abilities and capacities for appreciation of living and working together in a diverse learning environment. Members must not expose others to discriminatory acts of any form related to gender, race, nationality, creed, color, sexual orientation, marital status, age or disability since such acts, either active or passive, create a hostile environment.

This is all a very ugly situation, that could be cleared up by the administration of the campus adhering to its very own policies, and taking the lead in this behavior.

How sad they do not.
                                                                                                                                                February 13/17

The Heist - Fulton's latest dump bar owned by a Warendork
The Heist? It's The Shiest

So I keep reading the posts that there is an issue with the license and reading their posts makes me laugh.

"Hello everyone, I would like to keep everyone updated. We are still in the process of getting our licence renewed. We are still closed until this takes place. To snub some rumors, we have not been in violation of any law. We simply were operating on a temporary license and it expired before the permanent one was approved. We have a process that we must follow with NYS and the liquor authority that unfortunately does not happen over night." Well dumb dumbs... it is public knowledge and easy to look up your status...
License Information
Serial Number: 2205671
License Status: License is Inactive
Credit Group: 3
Filing Date: 10/24/2016
Effective Date: 12/20/2016
Expiration Date: 03/19/2017
Premises Information
Principal's Name: WAHRENDORF, MARY K Premises Name: MARTINI MAGIC INC Trade Name: SNUGGLY DUCK Zone: 2 Address: 114 ONEIDA ST FULTON, NY 13069
If your temp license ends March 19th... why are you lying to everyone and cutting bands you had lined up? You are closed most likely because the State discovered this is not really owned by Mary WAHRENDORF and that her husband (trash) and John Gosek (felon/pervert child molester) are the real owners. State and Federal authorities don't like those games dumb dumbs... Get your Horse shit together. Why don't you put the license in the family's chromosome deficient member mayor of Oswego Woody who wanders around Tail Dragger's all the time?

I know I have already sent a formal letter to the Authorities!

Also, pick a name please... The Heist? Martini Majic? Snuggly Duck? WTF is wrong with you idiots... these names are awful, but at least pick one and roll with it. Get a better manager as well... that Mike Sorendo is known for beating his ex girlfriends and is lucky his dumb ass is not in Prison as well. Although... time can only tell! You might all be soon!

PS... This place is a police trap for people being monitored and driving drunk. For the unsuspecting public... your chances of getting a DWI or being monitored for drugs in and out of this place goes way up!
                                                                                                                                                February 13/17

When Someone Says They Voted For Trump, You Instantly Know 7 Things About Them

                                                                                                                                                February 13/17








Today's  Quote  February 12/2017

“A great obstacle to happiness is to expect too much happiness.”

Trump is closer to being impeached.

                                                                                                                                                February 12/17

RE:Eyes Bleeding Hey, you missed
I never claimed to be perfect or an English teacher, however you can
read and understand my posts.

it not one run along sentence with no punctuation or anything to tell
when to stop reading or one thought stops and another ends thoughts all
run together and it becomes one big wad of words like tea in china you
can throw anything in and it works because people are idiots

enjoy your dismal life of being ignorant lol
                                                                                                                                                February 12/17

property tax
Who on this site lives in Scriba and while reviewing their property tax bill found that it went up-mine by 15%, which came from huge increases for the community college, town highway tax, fire dept tax and workmans compensation? Sent an email to Scriba legislators and those of the county looking for an explanation, only one Scriba town councilors bothered responding.
                                                                                                                                                February 12/17







Today's  Quote  February 11/2017

“Everyone chases after happiness, not noticing that happiness is right at their heels.”

Bertolt Brecht



County Legislators waste $40,000 on plan to study economy

Why are the taxpayers funding $40,000 a study the economy, when it has always been my belief that was what we paid the legislators for. They, (legislators) are totally tasked with the responsibility of understanding the economy and working to ensure that the economy stays strong, and to have plans in place for an economic down-turn, regardless of what causes it. The only legislator that made sense was Frank Castliglia.

It is time to start holding this legislative body accountable, and stop listening to legislators like Shawn Doyle, who's only contribution to the county was helping to put a book together on the history of Oswego. Maybe its time for Doyle to go away and put a person that understands their responsibility for the county economic plan. Instead of boring us to tears at every meeting about the activities from last year of the county, he might want to get engaged with what will happen when these Nuke Plants go away, and what will become of the millions of pounds of highly active nuclear waste that is left behind.

These plants have been here since the 1960's and now we have come to the realization of what should we do when these plants go down, and they will. REALLY!  45 years and you are now just thinking about this. It is time for this whole legislature, save a few that have brains, to be voted out of office this year and replace them with people who understand the duties and responsibilities of being a county legislator, who is supposed to look out for the people they represent. Stop wasting taxpayers money on studies that you should have already done something about.

                                                                                                                                                February 11/17



Harbor Pictures

The second, older picture has no middle wall or island where McKay's store was. They were manmade at a later date.

                                                                                                                                                February 11/17


There was a lot of cheap Irish labor back in those days. If we had baned those immigrants back in the day this country would

be a good 50 years behind the times today.



Michael *Benedict Arnold* Flynn

Michael Flynn calls Russian Ambassador before the presidential elections where held. Flynn had no "COMPELLING" reason to call, or authority to speak with the Russian Ambassador.

Michael Flynn has violated the "Logan Act."


The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799 ) is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments having a dispute with the U.S. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.



                                                                                                                                                February 11/17



Eyes Bleeding Hey, you missed

You missed the apostrophe mark on  (don’t ) .

                                                                                                                                                February 11/17



Trump Admits To 'Relationship' With Putin In Resurfaced Video



                                                                                                                                                February 11/17









Today's  Quote  February 10/2017

Make no mistake about it, this country is engaged in a second civil war. It is not north vs. south or east vs. west. Rather it is the republican party and their bible thumping religious radicals against every man woman and child who does not believe in their god, their convenient morality or their distorted alternative version of democracy. It is not spoken of publicly. It is not declared but none-the-less it is war and I say let the battle cry of those who would rise against these villains be, NO PRISONERS!
Elliston Howard

In reply to Dec 10th post diagruntled in Scriba
If Jim Oldenburg is who you are talking about for the appointment for the office of town supervisor then his attendance record should be looked at when he was in the office in Scriba and in the county legislator you will find lack of attendance so for that reason I will not vote for this person. We need someone in that office that cares what happens to our town
                                                                                                                                    February 10/17

Trump is using the Presidency for personal gain!

                                                                                                                                               February 10/17

Syracuse man stopped with 53 cartons of untaxed cigarettes, police say
Reminds me of Timmy Babcock, snagged with three times as many cigarettes as this guy. It's a felony, do you suppose Babcock got a slap on the paddy and let go? This should be public information. Anyone know?



                                                                                                                                               February 10/17

Hello to everyone

I as like most people was brought up to respect everyone with no exceptions. This obviously skipped certain people that believe they are of a better quality than everyone else for some unknown reason.
This is meant for The SUNY Oswego president . How dare you ignore people that are trying to be congenial to you. For a campus that believes in equality for all I believe no poorer ambassador could be on the forefront.
As many before I have been ignored several times. Professionalism is preached but is like most things. There is only selective people that are held accountable for their actions. I would like to express to you How sorry I am for you that an education has amplified your distaste for people you believe are less than you.
In closing hopefully you someday see the error of your ways and find it within yourself to remember that jobs are only a title. It's O.k. To be nice.
                                                                                                                                    February 10/17







Today's  Quote  February 9/2017

“In our Country . . . one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.”
William Tecumseh Sherman

A Vote for America's Future

                                                                                                                                               February 9/17

RE:RE :RE oswegoZ
It is, providing someone can read it lol. Your spidey senses are totally
off today, I am far from fat, dont like coffee, and am full time
employed and not at McDonalds. I paid attention to basic principles in
the english language so I could be able to communicate with people.
Continue with the sarcasm, the post still sucked. Who is going to want
to listen or read that and find it a credible gripe.

I dont need to play this game of giving your keyboard the happiness it
so wants, and you the boredom you are trying to escape. They do have
online classes you know :0)
                                                                                                                                    February 9/17

Water Street Picture
That's a wonderfully clear picture, with the railroad tracks on Water Street and also below street level, and you can see the clock on top of the old City Hall. It's all before the store was built on the bridge. That must have been quite an undertaking, building that up from that narrow island underneath. That would be the east wall of the Grant building on the southwest corner of Water St. I wonder what all that debris is on the east side of the river?
                                                                                                                                    February 8/17

Bartender beaten in Oswego bar asks: Why isn't my assault a felony?


                                                                                                                                               February 8/17

I do not know what bridge that on is in the picture. It is not the metal one which had a wrought iron fence-like railing and I cannot tell if it is the one with the diamond portholes through the windbreakers, which came down in the 1960s.

I believe the clock on old city hall is the one that is now on the current city hall. Somewhere there is a picture that I have not seen in a long time which shoes the shoe store straddling the wall/ island and I believe there are some stilts in the water in the west side of it. The debris on the east side would be the remains of the Ames Grain Elevator fire.
                                                                                                                                    February 8/17




Today's  Quote  February 8/2017

“Exaggerated sensitiveness is an expression of the feeling of inferiority”
Alfred Adler

Facebook Takes Search Warrant Challenge to Top Court

                                                                                                                                               February 8/17

Donald Trump is screwing veteran's out of money.
This *SO-CALLED* President Trump is a coward, a gutless draft dodger. Trump took money at veteran's rallies and hasn't delivered on his *SO-CALLED* promise to donate the money to veteran's charities. Trump ius using the monies to draw interest, then get's right off the donated money as a charitable expense.Trump has to release his taxes to see exactly how much Trump took in at these veteran rallies. And what Trump did with the money from these "veteran's rallies!"

                                                                                                                                               February 8/17

RE:RE :RE oswegoZ
I thought that this was a place were people could voice (rant) or could let off some steam ! And maybe point out some faults, etc.. ! If you are so worried about your eyes bleeding, then why not lose a few pounds and go teach at the library, provided that you do not have any Felonies ( I hope I spelled it right ) that would keep you from being around schools and coffee shops!
                                                                                                                                    February 8/17








Today's  Quote  February 7/2017

“To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile,

hoping he will eat you last -- but eat you he will.”
Ronald Reagan

Shoveling mandate
So i see that many tickets, warnings, went out for home owners/ oz residents that do not clear their sidewalks recently. Then can anyone tell me why the entire block of E. 4th. From Schuyler into the fort entrance ajacent to the Homeland Security building and across the street behind the Dr. Office adjoining the fort building are not touched with a shovel? no sidewalk access at all on either side.
                                                                                                                                    February 7/17

Gary Thibodeau...The Death of Common Sense
Why would inspecting GT's property, house, car, himself and RT the same, not finding one piece of evidence DID NOT EXCUSE THEM OF BEING SUSPECTS?

Combine Bivens 3 versions, Stinson being there, Pierce Id Steen, Bivens stating how big the men were and did not fit either bros. physical apperance, FBI testing showed no connection and other BS the OCSD used that we know is not true. That's what evidence does, either makes you a suspect but if there isn't any, you would not be a suspect...of course this doesn't matter when the railroad is running the show.

No evidence, files breached, witnesses changing stories, some making up a story, no one id RT's van as black and white. Only a light blue van and a full white van were seen.

OCSD hire JW, she knows more and told you more than you either know and won't admit or you're just to damn incompetent.

                                                                                                                                    February 7/17


Republican Hypocrites
Here is a picture of Hypocrite Senator Mitch McConnel's wife and Trump's Secretary of Transportation, who spoke to MEK, an Iranian Terrorist group, for $50,000 for a 5 minute speech. Rudy Guiliani also spoke to this group for an undisclosed amount of money. This terrorist group was know to have killed Americans.
As you might recall, they, McConnell, Trump and Guiliani were all over Hillary when she gave a speech and received money from a Wall Street group. Seems the Republicans don't mind talking to American Killers for money, but criticize people who talk to Wall Street for a fee.

                                                                                                                                    February 7/17

RE: Oswego zNY
Punctuation, Punctuation, Punctuation
I had to read it twice---my eyes are bleeding :0)
                                                                                                                                    February 7/17








Today's  Quote  February 6/2017

"An Independent is someone who wants to take the politics out of politics."
Adlai E. Stevenson

The canvas that the same artist used for Obama's portrait was 12" longer


                                                                                                                                    February 6/17

Re: Trump and Hitler

Who can forget Trump at his rallies - having his supporters *raise their right arms* answer an oath to vote for him? And the chants And "Grab her p__s." Oh and there is so much more about Trump and his childish supporters that has been documented.


                                                                                                                                               February 6/17

Re: The Pinocchio Press

Chief Editor is Steve Bannon, formerly Executive Chair of Breitbart News., and assistant editor Kellyanne Conway. Did you catch Conways story of the "Bowling Greene Massacre." (That never happened.)


                                                                                                                                               February 6/17

Trump and Hitler
They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and that picture spoke volumes. To try to help you understand, Trump has the same characteristics that Hilter had.
He believes he is a king, is a racist, surrounds himself with people who are white supremacists and are anti sematic. He can never be wrong and thinks he has power over other countries. He has put people in his cabinet that are like minded and will screw the American public and has convinced the 43% of the red neck, bible thumping haters, in the name of God, that it is ok to be a hater. Trump is a hateful racist, as was Hitler, and the way he and President Bannon (another racist) are running the country, we will be at war if the congress doesn't step up to the plate and curtail his aggression.
I would suggest that you go back and bone up on WWII history and maybe then you might see the parallel. If that comparison saddens you, then you have already drank the Trump Tea. After WWII was over, nobody in Germany was a Natzi, and nobody knew what was going on in the death camps.
                                                                                                                                    February 6/17

Trump and President Bannon

                                                                                                                                    February 6/17

Oswego zNY
No wonder Oswego is in such a mess instead of consertration on the problems facing the problems of Oswego they make stupid comments on an election that is over their comments are like a sandwich at a banquet I know longer live there but I come back when able it has a great chance to be the city I grew up in again if the residents concentrate on the problems they are facing which they can change and forget about something they cannot
                                                                                                                                    February 6/17


That sounds like something the Jews told each other on the way to the gas chambers.


Military acting on U.S. Soil
What was Silvermen (female comedian ) thinking on asking the military to act ? Does this person know ANYTHING About A people protecting themselves against a aggressor ? This is what the 2nd Am. Was all about ! These left people are clueless and do not care about for country, but only there own power play. Did the Vets admi. Take care of health,homes, there families, pensions, etc.. ?
Let us ask where the bull $hit and liars are ?
                                                                                                                                    February 6/17


                                                                                                                                               February 6/17








Today's  Quote  February 5/2017

"Each person must live their life as a model for others."
Rosa Parks


The emperor had his new clothes and the news media has a new nose!

                                                                                                                                               February 5/17




RE: KellyAnn Conway she fits right in with the Trumper
Conway is a piece of work. I don't she even knows the truth about anything that is going on around her. She fits right in with the Trump dump group. Take a close look at her. She looks like one ugly drag queen.
                                                                                                                                    February 5/17

Trump and Hitler
It saddens me that anyone could compare Trump to Hitler. How many ppl has Trump killed? This shows a complete understanding of history. I am not a Trump fan but believe Clinton was worse. However, the point is when ppl resort to the name calling and pictures posted here it sounds as if the children have been let loose. I expect much more rational discussion of issues on this site plus the facts to support the claims being made. I still believe ppl can disagree and remain civil towards each other.
                                                                                                                                    February 5/17








Today's  Quote  February 4/2017

"The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."
Walter Bagehot

KellyAnn Conway she fits right in with the Trumper
Kellyanne Conway Literally Fabricated A Massacre To Justify Trump's Immigration Ban | The Huffington Post
                                                                                                                                    February 4/17

Standing Rock Veterans Thank You
Veterans vs. Trump: Pipeline Will Never Be Built, Warriors Vow | The Huffington Post

                                                                                                                                               February 3/17

Safety information from Mobile Patrol


                                                                                                                                               February 4/17

Remember this date November 6, 2018!
This is the date, November 6, 2018 on which 33 senate seats, all 435 seats in the House of Representatives, and 14 governorship's will be up for re-election. Put it on your calendar now and be prepared to be an informed voter. If you are worried, concerned, angry, disappointed about the direction the government is going this is the most effective way to make a change, stop complaining and start planning. Remember the president is only one cog in the government machine, and you can make effective change through voting for your local and state representatives, this is the check that can balance this situation. Pass it on….
                                                                                                                                    February 4/17







Today's  Quote  February 3/2017

“The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.”
Ayn Rand

Is There any Difference??


1939.... Hilter ,Goering, Himmler ...80,000,000 dead


2017.... Trump, Bannon, Prebus

Death toll? 120,000,000 to 200,000,000
We have an idiot with his little fingers on the nuclear button
and Bannon urging him to push it.
                                                                                                                                    February 3/17

Watch "#ResistTrumpTuesdays Visits Senator Schumer" on YouTube

                                                                                                                                               February 3/17

80 W. 5th St.
I know exactly what this person is talking about in relation to the dangerous intersection at W.5th & W. Seneca St. as I had a near miss there about two weeks ago as I was south bound on W.5th as I had to pull out to the center of W. Seneca St. to see if it was clear to go a black SUV came flying out of nowhere heading east on W. Seneca St and slammed his brakes on instantly as I was slamming my car into reverse to get the hell out of the way. I have seen this very same vehicle speeding around town many times, it looks similar to our police SUV'S but it isn't. Whom ever this is He is always driving like He is on some kind of a mission! I advise people to be very careful at this intersection when driving south on W.5th St. at W .Seneca St. It would also be advisable to watch out for this black SUV who may be trying to give people the impression that he is a policeman!
                                                                                                                                    February 3/17

The original parking plan called for diagonal parking not perpendicular.

President Trump exhibits classic signs of mental illness: shrinks


                                                                                                                                               February 3/17

Trump's doctor claims President takes drug for hair growth

                                                                                                                                               February 3/17

I did not realize LSD would make hair grow.

Mr. formal Mayor (sullivan )
The proper name of the sax player was Buzz Vandergrift ! And my brother was the drummer in that band !

                                                                                                                                               February 3/17
Sullivan is the Oswego equivalent of Trump.

Bridge Picture
What a great picture of the store on the bridge and the big building that used to be at the end of the bridge where the sub shop is now. I wonder if you have any pictures of the old Grant block that was on the south east corner of West First and Bridge. Leo's department store was on the first floor and several lawyers and Joe Ross insurance on the second floor. Across
Water Street at the back on the riverside was the freight house and a Western Union office, I believe.
                                                                                                                                    February 3/17

I think there is a couple somewhere. The question is where.

Drain the swamp?

Call a plumber! Hurry!!! The sewer-line is backed up and toilet is over flowing at the "White House!"
                                                                                                                                    February 3/17









Today's  Quote  February 2/2017

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times; it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness;

it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair; we had everything before us, we had nothing before us.
Charles Dickens

Senator: Army Corps Told to Approve Dakota Pipeline Easement


                                                                                                                                               February 3/17

Trump isn't POTUS "45", Trumps p. "301.81" !
Trump is nuts! And Trump has the "nuclear codes."


Oaks vs Dodd
With Oaks as DA and Dodd as Judge justice is not even part of the equation.
                                                                                                                                    February 2/17

Crazy Trump
Trump is “crazy like a fox” alright……….a rabid Fox.
                                                                                                                                    February 2/17









Today's  Quote  February 1/2017

“A modern democracy is a tyranny whose borders are undefined;

one discovers how far one can go only by traveling in a straight line until one is stopped.”
Norman Mailer

Les (is more) Holmes
Isn't he the guy who eats stale doughnuts from a garbage bag? You know donut shop throwaways.. from the dumpster.
                                                                                                                                    February 1/17

Tax Increase Scriba
We have been told that the significant tax increases in Scriba is due to the pilot project with the nuke plant in Scriba to keep it from closing. At some point in time, when do they get closed, they are dinosours ! I guess we wait till one blows up or a major problem occurs. These plants were built to produce low cost electric power to consumers, and just the opposite occured. High cost electricity which is sent somewhere else and the consumer pays the price and our taxes still go up to save jobs.
If the plant stayed closed your taxes would have went up probably the same amount and we'd be a little safer.
Also the power grid is aging and you'll see grid failures at some point in our future.

Wake Up America
Earl Pitts
                                                                                                                                    February 1/17


Kidd Family
Great video of the Kidd family sucker punching the guy on the bar stool then attacking the barmaid.

All three of them should have been locked up without bail.
                                                                                                                                    February 1/17

NY's longest-serving inmate rates best, worst prisons after 54 years

                                                                                                                                               February 1/17

‘Crazy like a fox’: Mental health experts try to get inside Trump’s mind

                                                                                                                                               February 1/17

Leslie Homes
Leslie showed up for his draft physical wearing a pair of his mother’s panties. That’s how he got out of the draft.
                                                                                                                                    February 1/17







Today's  Quote  January 31/2017

"The truth is found when men are free to pursue it."
Franklin D. Roosevelt


Minetto Crime Wave Cover-up

About seven or eight years ago I got an email from a Minetto resident who's car had been broken into while parked in his driveway. Other than the break-in the main complaint from this resident was that nothing was put in the media and law enforcement would not provide him with any information on the investigation.


According to several current and former residents of the town there is an ongoing crime spree involving mostly auto break-ins and home burglaries. Some people have reported groups of two and four young men walking the roads at all hours stopping occasionally to break into a dance or pretend to play instruments. The act that they put on is merely a distraction from the fact that they are using cell phones to photograph residents homes. While these may not be the actual burglars it is believed they may be selling information as to which homes have some one there and at what times, what vehicles are parked there and when. These photos combined with information available from real estate and real property and social media websites gives wood-be felons an entire database of the residents in a community.


Why law enforcement and town officials have not warned residents of these goings on is still a mystery as are so many unsolved crimes in Oswego County. The best thing residents can do is install security lights, form watch groups and keep your guns loaded.



Gregg Oaks Pleads 3 More Felonies Down To A Slap On The Hand

                                                                                                                                               January 31/17

Hey Donny Trump, you are an illegitimate President, and a very hateful individual...why don't you send that white Russian whore wife of yours, who is an immigrant , and was probably Putin's mistress, back to Russia.?

                                                                                                                                    January 31/17

Re: can not get rich with only 3 people
Any bar that ever involved the Wahrendorks involved drugs to.
                                                                                                                                    January 31/17

With Gosek as a partner and his history with young girls and drugs you can probably take that to the bank.

Kidd Family
That Kidd family is nothing but bullys
The mother looks like she is strung out on meth
                                                                                                                                    January 31/17







Today's  Quote  January 30/2017

“'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm,

and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death.”
Thomas Paine

District Attorney's Office FAIL
If you could be so kind as to just take notice that something is extremely wrong here. Please take a look through the following links. I am the bartender in the video in the first link and cannot grasp how any of this is okay. If anyone could help with the Change.org link, it would be greatly appreciated. There is a description on that link as to what is going on with the case.
                                                                                                                                    January 30/17







Roberta Kidd , 4th Grade teacher North Rose-Wolcott Middle, Wolcott, NY



I think all of these old Republican politicians have mad cow disease
GOP lawmakers hash out ideas, air concerns over Obamacare repeal, replacement | syracuse.com


                                                                                                                                               January 30/17

Women are powerful join the fight
Perhaps the Largest Protest in U.S. History Was Brought to You by Trump | Time.com

                                                                                                                                               January 30/17

Oswego County Spokes people
Would Oswego County please not put Dave Turner on the TV as a spokes person, he sounds as dumb as he is. Having him speak for Oswego County is as bad as having the following dumb asses talk on the TV :
Keven Garderner, Fred Bearsly, Chris Jones, Robert Hayes, Milford Potter, Margaret Kessler, Shawn Doyle, Roy Reehil, John, Proud, Linda Lockwood, Richard Kline, Shane Broadwell, and several of the other legislators. Please put someone in front of the camera who is knowledgeable, and can put a sentence together with out sounding like they are from Boonville. People like Turner, make Oswego County look like we are a bunch of it ignorant fools!
                                                                                                                                    January 30/17

Dave is just jealous of his wife who has been on TV several times at the nuke plants.

Typical Oswego County Republican Voter
Les Homes was quoted in the Syracuse paper on Sunday, and came across just what he is; a angry white, uneducated, racist, who has yet to understand what the 2nd amendment is about. He fits the description of the typical Oswego County male voter. Les was the "Water Boy" for the Hannibal football team because he could not make it as a player, on a very small school team. He hides behind, what he thinks the 2nd amendment stands for, yet failed to show up for military service when we were all heading to V.N.
Les is still a "Water Boy", but now he is carrying water for a dysfunctional Republican Granby Committee. Nobody likes him or his kids that he keeps trying to get elected to positions that they are not qualified for.
So when you see this guy, you will now understand what the rest of NYS sees when they think about Oswego County Voters. By the way, the two cities, where reasonable intelligent people live, did not carry Trump, it was only the towns where people like Les live, who carried Trump .

                                                                                                                                               January 30/17

I think you left out a few adjectives. How about lazy, good-for-nothing, dumb-ass, ignorant, inbred, redneck.






Today's  Quote  January 28/2017

“The art of publicity is a black art; but it has come to stay, and every year adds to its potency.”
Learned Hand

Still haven't heard...
Who was awarded "The Sphincter off the Year" for 2016? There were plenty of A** holes in town to choose from.

                                                                                                                                               January 28/17




                                                                                                                                    January 28/17


Any Truth
Any truth to the story that the wise a$$ cop at SUNY Oswego got canned. He spends half his time at Cheap Seats.?
                                                                                                                                    January 28/17


Illegal parking and an accident waiting to happen at 80 West 5th Street.
This is an accident waiting to happen! Cars blocking the sidewalk, and you can't see the oncoming traffic coming at the intersection of W. 5th and W. Seneca St. Here' a lawsuit waiting to happen against the owner/owners/and tenants of the property at 80 W. 5th Street.


                                                                                                                                               January 28/17


That piece of public property was paved on the taxpayers dime and gifted to the owner

compliments of alderman Mercier.







Today's  Quote  January 27/2017

"That is a dangerous concept,

that men of the armed forces owe their primary duty to these temporary occupants of the White House

instead of the Country and the Constitution we are sworn to defend!"
Douglas Mac Arthur

Trump Torture
Trump: Torture 'absolutely' works; tactics in war on terror to be reviewed | syracuse.com


                                                                                                                                               January 27/17

What Happened to Gordon Buske?
He did such a wonderful job last year.


                                                                                                                                               January 27/17

I am sure his departure had nothing to do with the way he treated Chuck Shumer last year.
Flash probably left to take a cabinet post with Trump.

The Golden Book of Facts
I can only imagine the type of home-school "education" that young Baron [his legal name not title] Trump has been receiving from inside the "bunker of alternative facts".
                                                                                                                                    January 27/17

With his daddy’s genes I would not expect too much.

Trump's Wall Gave Me An Idea
Using Trump's logic my neighbor should pay to put up a fence that will belong to me on my property because I want it. If I don't? well in Trump's case he'd stay up all night tweeting about grabbing my sister by the box because he can? That's more than a narcissistic rage disorder, that type of behavior borders on the psychotic.
                                                                                                                                    January 27/17

And no matter what situation he is in when he talks he sounds like a complete idjot. Obviously daddy bought his college degree just as he bought his way out of the draft.


Went past MARTINI MAGIC at midnight Wenesday…..

2 GIRLS AT THE BAR AND A GUY STANDING, LOOKED LIKE YOUNGER MALE BARTENDER. As you looked straight ahead like you were heading north there was a cop car with someone pulled over, lights a flashing. So, I would guess about 500 feet or less if you were heading to OZ……YOU MAY HAVE A 50/50 CHANCE OF HAVING YOUR NAME IN THE PAPER. As in a building named after you MC CROBIE. The Lock parking lot had 3 cars so they could have been the people. You have a clear view in there and you can not get rich with only 3 people from FOE TON. I think tonight was trivia night ….i wonder if they were the smart drunks.

                                                                                                                                               January 27/17

Tax payers being screwed by there DPW

DPW commissioner Tom Kells. And his assistant commissioner have created three shifts now at the DPW ,people of the city do you see your DPW tax dollars at work on second and third shift. Yes you will during a snowstorm but where are they when it's not snowing. All this three-shift bullshit is doing is causing lesser Manpower on days when most of the work in the city needs to be done, we sleep in trucks in garage on nights it's a joke , LOL even are Union reps are telling us to slow down and do less. Mr. Mayor you picked the wrong man for commissioner of DPW it breaks my heart that I actually voted for you!
                                                                                                                                    January 27/17

Scam warning: Just answering may leave you a victim - Story

                                                                                                                                               January 27/17





Today's  Quote  December 31 /2016

“All the people like us are we, And everyone else is They.”

Rudyard Kipling




I like your site every day, but please stop the Trump trashing.  Elections are what they are.  I'm over 70 and we have to live with it  weather we like it or not.  You know that.  Happy New Year.

                                                                                                                                                 December 31/16



Ever since the days of Newt Gingrich and the “Contract on America” the Republicans and their right-wing fundamentalist minions have been working 24/7 to force their religious and alleged conservative agenda upon what remains of working class Middle-America. They are the party of hate and I hate those mother fu**ers right back.


I am only 68 and I am a disabled veteran X3 but I will fight Trump and pukes like him until the day I die.


I will never accept that short-fingered, draft-dodging, pussy-grabbing, egomaniacal son-of-a-bitch as president.


Happy New Year to you too.




Fight for Council President

It is clear that the mayor is not supporting Shawn Walker for Council President, and, so what, he has no say in it. Walker, after his last action to screw the city out of revenue for the city from the Town of Oswego made it very clear he is in the pockets of the slumlord association. Nate Emmons is no better, and has only been on the council for less than a year. Emmons showed the entire city that by supporting the Slumlords, screwing the city taxpayers out of a new revenue stream, and his poor voting record, should eliminate him as a candidate for Council President. After his poor performance on the council for less than a year, this should eliminate him from running for any elected position, as he has demonstrated he is for sale to the highest bidder.

This leaves turn-coat VanBuren and Coradino. Nobody is going to support VanBuren based on his lousy track record .Coradino is one of the landlord clique and has not shown any leadership skills., leaving Councilor McLaughlin and Councilor Reynolds. Reynolds has less than a year and is still learning, and McLaughlin certainly has the skills and leadership, but is smart enough not to want the job.

Here they go again, trying to select the best of the worst candidates, by a group of councilors that have no desire to serve the people or city, and are in it for what they can get out of it.

Seems that VanBuren, Walker, Emmons have show their propensity to corruption, so that leaves Coradino, a landlord to try to lead the pack. 

                                                                                                                                                December 31/16





Richard Thibadeau's Van

In The Possession Of The Oswego County Sheriff's Department.

All of the doors are black and

there is a large black stripe down each side.

Only the front is all white


OCSD investigators took statements from people describing a white van and or a light blue van.

A 10-year-old with 20-20 vision or a visually impaired 110-year-old will tell you this is not a white van.



This is a BLACK AND WHITE van.

ANYONE WHO GAVE A DESCRIPTION (from a view other than head on),




Inside sources say the OCSD has recently conducted yet another search/inspection of Richard Thibadeau's van and again found no DNA or any other evidence.


That is at least twice they have proven there is no connection between Thibadeau's van and the disappearance of Heidi Allen!



Fire department
Does anyone know if our resident fire department THIEF is one of the firefighters being laid off? If not he should be.
Looks like he is trying to impersonate a Fire Chief, maybe he is going to apply for the Chief's job next year.

This is OZ he/she could be the next chief.

Who made a noise

In David Stinson's statement, given on 4-8-1994 @ 3:56 pm, he says: "This all occurred in about 1-2 minutes. I waited a few minutes for the clerk. I remember hearing something in the back room to the left. This sound reassured me that someone was there and I waited patiently for the clerk."




To the left? By the back door, the one not everyone knew about? The one the "family" used? Look at this picture closely, see the plywood covering up the old back door, to the left. Who was back there?


                                                                                                                                                 September 29/16


If the back room looked anything like what can be seen outside the back door he probably heard rats.




Today's  Quote  September 22/2016

“We were making the future, he said, and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making.

And here it is!”

H. G. Wells

I read what you did, and we all know who you are!
I read what you did, and we all know who you are! Donald Dodd, Reuel Todd, Greg Oakes, Mark Moody, Daniel King, and Donald Todd

As a citizen of this county, you all work for me, not each other. This is too inform you that I am calling you out, for the truth !
I have read all of the information you filed. There is no glaring evidence against Gary Thibodeau, because if there was, you would have had to file it. Further witheld evidence
would constitute another Brady Violation. I pondered today what in the world the former jurors were told in Gary's trial by you, Donald Dodd. Your timeline is preposterous. It is not even worth mentioning. Reuel Todd, please tell me what led you to the Thibodeau brothers? I cannot find any supporting documentation that sends the case towards them. A criminal never calls and identifies themselves, as being at the scene of the crime. Who is Borrelli, and why were you going so far as to talk about him being in a photo line up for the clerks at the D&W 4-16-1994, but on 4-14-1994, Borrelli was given "walking papers" yesterday. That would have made it 4-13-1994. On 4-15-94, you say:" Is it time to do a photo line up on Borrelli?" So you gave Borrelli "walking papers", I believe that means you let him go, on 4-13-94, but on 4-15-94 and again on 4-16-94, you were going to have the clerks at the D&W look at his picture? But after 4-16-94, Borrelli is never mentioned again.

On 4-14-94, the lead sheet says, "Danny Barney, has come into view as a probably suspect". On 4-15-94, the lead sheet says: Wheeler interviewed Dan Barney yesterday,
at length. Believes Barney is not a suspect." Where are the notes from the interview with Dan Barney? 4-15-94, it says, "late yesterday, Gary Thibodeau, entered the picture as a possible suspect. This developes from a lead that came in early on." Where is the lead, Moe? I can't find any documentation of a lead about Gary, being a suspect. Who told you Gary had a crush on Heidi? Or that Gary was ever coming on to Heidi? The only documentation about anyone coming onto Heidi, is in her diary, about her boss, Matt Duell, not Gary.

The case against Gary Thibodeau, regarding Heidi Allen's abduction, is all like the above mentioned fairy tales. This person is a suspect, no, we let him go. Hey, this person might have done it, no, we talked to him and he said he didn't do it. So you decided amongst yourselves, to pin it on a person and his brother, that you had no evidence against, only a citizen that was trying to help you.

So I say that the Appellate Division will get the public the answers we have been seeking for 22 years. Dumb of us to ever believe that our District Attorney's Office, or
Sheriff's Department, were honest or truthful. All you were looking for was someone to blame it on, to puff yourselves up, but I'm sure soon, it will be deflated, like yesterday's
birthday balloons. The public doesn't believe you, trust you, or support corrupt officials.

                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

Oakes habitual liar
Oakes you are a bold faced liar anyone with a computer and access to this blog can see how much of a liar you are. In 1994/95 arrest and conviction of Gary Thibodeau. Fahey repeatedly requested the CI file, he was told Allen wasnt an informant. He then requested a dismissal due to with holding of evidence. The old news reports do not support Oakes bull shit lies. Fahey over and over called Dodd, out on this CI status and requested her entire CI file. Again they played the Allen wasnt a CI. http://heidiallenarticles.blogspot.com/?m=1 take the time to study openly on your own. The DA office are hubitual liars and so are the Sheriffs. Request a state police if you need an officer. The lies are sickening. The Sheriff dept. Should be shut down.
                                                                                                                                           September 22/16

In Again Out Again Breckenridge
Roger Breckenridge out of Prison
Identifying and Location Information
As of 09/21/16 DIN (Department Identification Number) 13B0403
Date of Birth 08/11/1968
Race / Ethnicity WHITE
Custody Status RELEASED
Housing / Releasing Facility GOWANDA
Date Received (Original) 02/14/2013
Date Received (Current) 06/03/2016
Admission Type
County of Commitment OSWEGO
Latest Release Date / Type (Released Inmates Only) 08/25/16 PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE

Crimes of Conviction
If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences.
As of 09/21/16 Crime Class

Sentence Terms and Release Dates
Under certain circumstances, an inmate may be released prior to serving his or her minimum term and before the earliest release date shown for the inmate.
As of 09/21/16 Aggregate Minimum Sentence 0001 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Aggregate Maximum Sentence 0004 Years, 00 Months, 00 Days
Earliest Release Date
Earliest Release Type
Parole Hearing Date 06/2016
Parole Eligibility Date 10/24/2013
Conditional Release Date NONE
Maximum Expiration Date 11/02/2016
Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision
Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date
Parole Board Discharge Date

                                                                                                                                                 September 22/16


Today's  Quote  September 19-20/2016

“Whether one eats a cat or not is a personal choice, and I don't want to sway anyone one way or another.

But if you do, there is one obvious cooking tip: Always remember to remove the bell from the cat's collar before cooking.”
Mike Royko


Gary Thibodeau...The death of common sense
Are the prosecution witnesses really witnesses as to what they saw or are they just a link to a prosecution procedure that convicted an innocent man.

Witnesses provide information to help the prosecutor convince a jury that a person is guilty as charged.

- Dave Stinson: was there from 7:41 - 7:45, waved down a deputy but did not tell him that he saw a kidnapping.
- Richard was there and left at 7:42 and was seen by Stinson (at least he had to be) but not seen kidnapping HA.
- Stinson walked in after 7:42 and no Heidi. Now how could Richard have done this in one minute, with Stinson being there but did not see anything. He also never mentioned that he saw anyone let alone Gary.
- Mr. Swenkowski said he watched Richard leave the store and then left. He was there at 7:41 also.
- Swenkowski also saod he saw one person.
- Two people there at the time of the crime and saw nothing.
- Bivens said he saw two husky men and a women but NO TIME WAS MENTIONED IN THE DA's STATEMENT OF FACTS.
- So this makes a question of when Bivens was there. Had to be after and close to 7:42 according to the OCSD as that is when Richard bought cigs and left.
- How could Bivens see the crime and Swenkowski and Stinson didn't although they had to be there at the same time because Stinson walked in at 7:41 and no Heidi.
- Bivens stated that he did not remember telling a deputy later that he had driven by at 8-8:30. He saw the crime, then Stinson has to be mistaken about HA not being in the store. Which could happen but he flagged down Deputy Curtis and he also checked for Heidi...not found.
- Stinson said he saw two husky men with a girl in the parking lot. He said there wasn't anyone or cars in the lot.
Wasn't Stinson and Swenkowski there per their statements. Swenkowski also said the deputies tried to convince him that his time was off but he stood his ground on the time he gave.
- I personally don't believe Bivens was even there..(just my opinion). His time is way off and no time was recorded when he first gave his statement according to the DA's Facts...no time given with his statement. Why not?
- Then we have Gary going to a MA prison and snitches give stories that we now know are not true.
- Bottom line: two witnesses there at the time of the crime but did not see Richard taking Heidi. Bivens saying he saw two husky men taking her (but no time was given by him) but Swenkowski and Stinson were there and did
not see anything.
To the DA involved in this. You sir have NO WITNESSES AT ALL! Maybe a story teller but if at least you should have had three witnesses. Bivens could not have seen a crime between 8-8:30 because the OCSD was there at that time.

I submit to you that you set up a frame of Richard and Gary Thibodeau (and a bad one that is full of holes) got bad info from snitches who I think lied and their statement proves it.

So I am going to ask in this paper right now to Donald Dodd to please answer my question: How did three people there at the time of the crime and two didn't see anything and one who didn't even know or did not want to tell what time he was there, which had to be around 7:41-7:42 did see the crime?

If I were you, I would be afraid, very afraid of a federal Investigation. If no investigation happens if Gary wins his appeal, call your state representative, senator and anyone else that would help.

                                                                                                                                           September 19-20/16

speed indicators
If the speed indicator says you’re over the limit, is there a cop around to give you a ticket?
If there is a cop why do we need a speed indicator?
Are there cameras on the speed indicator to take a picture of the driver and the license plate?
Is this another waste of the taxpayer’s money?
Big Brother is watching you.

                                                                                                                                                 September 19-20/16







Today's  Quote  September 18/2016

"True wisdom is less presuming than folly.

The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate,

and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance."

Buske Book
The book is largely based on secondhand information from the Sheriff’s Department, the District Attorney’s office and family members. The Sheriffs lied, the D.A. lied and the family lied so that basically makes the book fiction.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Why wasn't this in the police blotter,

Another IT issue??Records: Man threatens to rape teen in Oswego parking lot before sexually abusing her


                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Show Up Time
So if a OFD is called in, but sent home with in one hour, that person gets five hours of time and a half ( 7.5 of straight time ) . Do these people get called in , maybe four times with in a 24 hour period ? So maybe , one of these hereo’s could collect twenty hours of time and a half ! That comes down to ¾ ( or 7.5 % of a full paycheck Per Day ) .

20 hours per shift x $ 125.00 per hour = $ 2,500.00 per man ! And if they call in four men x $ 2,500.00 = $ 10,000.00 per shift ( 24 hour ) . So you could be spending $ 70,000.00 per week in show up time ! Which, in the worse case world ,would be $ 70,000.00 x 52 weeks = $ 3,640,000.00 a year, which, at this time, I do not think that the Famous OFD Ambl. Corp. could recoup! The chief eithers understands how to protect the membership , and does not care about the taxpayers, or is really bad at math ( checks and balances ). Maybe big brother can do some 2nd and 3rd mathbook coin sckills!
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Probably visited Syracuse Ave. No. Wrong, if he had he would not have been arrested.


I would be surprised if that guy was not seeing a male prostitute

                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16


RE: Four More Misdemeanor Plea Bargains For Oaks

We should start a fund me page to pay there cellmates to beat and rape them every day.

                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16


In order to have cellmates they would have to be convicted of something bigger than a misdemeanor.

The Heidi controversy
I was under the direct impression. Heidi switched her schedule with Sally Brooks. Who was suppose to be working at the Fish on in port Ontario. Either way. There are conflicting stories from Heidi family and the DA office. If she was not scheduled the only ones who would be aware of this switch. Are her family, Brett and DUELLS, in which case Ms. Duell file seems to have been tampered with. Very convenient. No one else would ever have known. Unless Heidi told someone. I very much likely doubt that was her topic of discussion.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

Re: Gary Thibodeau and the Other 10,000 a Year Wrongfully Convicted in America

                                                                                                                                                 September 18/16

Re: Whos Lying
We know the Family lied, The OCSD lied and the DA lied.
Since the book is based on information which mostly came from these three sources then the answer to the question is everyone.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16

It's common sense

Why would Donald Dodd or Todd know more. Hmmm, maybe because they supposedly investigated and prosecuted this case. No matter what you post. The fact is. They should have known. Both her sister and their dept. All have different times, ones clearly lying. I'll bet it is not Lisa Buske, but the DA office that was said in 1994 to be out of touch with the public and their mistakes cost human lives. They were also in trouble back then for many different reasons. From lying, to prosecutorial misconduct. If you read the old news. You'd be well aware of their tricks. I highly doubt her sister is bull shitting anyone in her book. But I do not doubt that the DA office did a ton. Many people do not agree with your questions as to how could Dodd or Todd know. Well in order to prosecute this case you'd think they should have. Ridiculous remarks.
                                                                                                                                           September 18/16



Heidi often offered to work on the holidays.
Regarding Easter Sunday, another employee Sally Brooks, and Heidi, were willing to work; initially Ms. Brooks
was scheduled to open, but she had another job that needed her that morning. Therefore, Heidi agreed to open
the store that morning.



The day started like Easter Sunday did in other small American towns. Heidi arrived at work early, anticipating
the time she would spend with family and friends later in the afternoon. She volunteered to cover the morning shift
so a coworker could spend the holiday with her children, even though it meant she would be the only one working at the store.

                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

If She was working for someone else how were Gary and Richard supposed to know this?????

Did Deputy Van Patten drop her work schedule in the parking lot?????


More questions
Why was the first register tape transaction 4:06?
Why does the book say Heidi started work at 5am?
Why does testimony show Heidi started work at 6am?
Why does testimony show Heidi was on the schedule to work that Sunday?
Why is a “story” that another person was originally scheduled but Heidi took over instead?
Why does testimony show Brett left at 6:35am that Easter morning but the book says around 7:15am?
The inmates statements were taken mid-July.
Why did OCSD get the transaction tape from April 2, 1994 on August 11?
Why was Mrs. Duell’s file tampered with on August 12?
Why did Bivens testify at Grand Jury that he was in the D&W parking lot and the only car there was Heidi’s, his first statement says he went by the D&W between 8-8:30 but his testimony was leaving Oswego at 7:30am, and his testimony was about witnessing a physical altercation?
How could Richard and/or Gary have possibly gone to the D&W the morning of April3, 1994, taken Heidi to near Gary’s “to talk to her” brought her back to the store before anyone noticed her gone, made a purchase and then kidnapped her with the time between ALL the customers that were there the morning of April 3, 1994?

Final answer-People lied to help get a quick conviction, in hopes of finding Heidi or “getting their man” to placate the community after Mr. Benningfield told the searchers that the kidnapper could be standing there next to them.

Lisa-you did the research years ago. You know part of the Truth….that Gary and Richard are innocent. Do what’s right. You have plenty of support. Stand up to your family and the lying people you have, unjustly, high regards for.
                                                                                                                                           September 16/16

Here is a direct link to the comments Murtagh has made online. The top comment reads.
FBI on case has been on it for years they feel they have the right guy in jail
Posted on Key Heidi Allen witness texts pal: I lied to police about what I know
10/24/2014 10:32 AM
Which is an out right lie. As we are all aware FBI Points to Bohrer. In 1994 they testified then that there was no link between the Thibodeaus and Heidi Allen.
Murtagh also can not deny it was him. Several times. He makes it very clear. It is him.
Please ask john on this he knows who I am ( Rich Murtaugh )
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/12/2014 8:28 PM
He openly admits twice of removing a van from Valley Road in Fernwood. But no ones paying attention.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Murtagh Confirmed
Murtagh confirmed no caddy in his posts online. So where Oakes got that from is beyond me. Murtagh admits and so did Breckenridge of picking up a van at Gary's. But no idea of a caddy.
I believe he said I towed a van from there not a caddie .. Jmo though
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 8:33 AM
Don't no nothing bout caddy
Posted on Oswego County DA: James Steen is pathological liar, but not Heidi Allen's killer
10/22/2014 2:55 AM -Richard Murtagh. So if Oakes wants to use a hearsay witness. He should probley listen to the tower, that was there. No caddy. Sorry Oakes. You did lie in your filing. Little or big, it's a lie. You were giving some impression that the Caddy Dodd brought up was disposed of as well. It is not the truth.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16

Who's lying game!

Time to compare some facts, between the book, "Where's Heidi", written by Lisa Buske, sister of Heidi, and DA Greg Oakes, Statement of Facts, filed October of 2015.

STATEMENT OF FACTS, page 1, SAYS: On Easter morning, April 3, 1994, Mr. Law arose at 5:45 am at Heidi's residence. He and Heidi left the residence at ab out 5:50am, and Mr. Law followed Heidi to the D&W Convenience Store. Heidi drove her maroon 1984 Pontiac Sunbird Station Wagon, and Mr. Law drove his 1987 Ford Bronco. They arrived at the store at 5:55 am.

Lisa Buske's Book says: Chapter 3 "A Time to weep" , Paragraph 3, page 35: As my parents settled into their swivel chairs, Ed sat on the couch while I snuggled into my favorite childhood chair. We heard Brett's black Dodge Cougar pull into the driveway then Heidi's feet skipping through the kitchen.

Chapter 1 Page 26: At 5 am, on April 3, 1994, Heidi opened up the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Route 104 and State Route 104B, and her boyfriend Brett came along to keep her company until the store got busy. Brett often accompanied her on those early mornings.

STATEMENT OF FACTS page 1, last paragraph, last sentence, SAYS: Mr. Law left at about 6:35 that morning.

Lisa Buske's Book page 26, last sentence, says: Brett left the store around 7:15 am

Who's wrong? Who's telling a story? What was Brett driving, a Cougar, or a Bronco? Hey Oakes, did you ever check your "facts"? These facts, are very important, maybe you don't know which is true, who's playing the liar game?
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


The other day there was a fire on East 4th Street and I heard that we called in all of our off duty personnel but then sent them home pretty quickly. Don't they all get a minimum of like 5 hours overtime every time they are called in. So much for saving money on overtime. How come we don't call on any of the other departments in the county to help us when there is a fire. The volunteer departments wouldn't cost us any money and could probably get here quicker then some of our off duty members that live quite a distance away. Just my 2 cents.
                                                                                                                                           September 15/16


RE: Lies more lies Oakes
Oakes is using classic inadmissible hearsay and uncorroborated rumor to bolster LE’s theory of how Richard and Gary were involved?

Did Mr. Neadle testify? Did Mr. Neadle hear Gary say what Mr. Maynes claimed?

Wow, would have expected more from a top LE official. You studied this case for how long? Shame on you for believing/going along with the sham.
Love all the documents you provided in your Statement of Facts, Affirmations, and Exhibits. Can you publicize more? Please!!
                                                                                                                                           September 12/16




Today's  Quote  September 11/2016

“The most erroneous stories are those we think we know best - and therefore never scrutinize or question.”
Stephen Jay Gould

Lies, lies, lies
1. Gary "confessed" to 2 inmates.
2. Illegal search of Gary's property that yielded evidence of Heidi.
3. Phone wire taps.
4. Human bones in furnace.
5. Remains in rolled rug of blue van.

These lies are so easily exposed from the documents made public in DA Oaks' filing it's borderline comical that some people still believe them.

Truth, truth, truth

1a. news article 1995-Dodd says inmates did not say Gary admitted involvement. This is corroborated by the inmates' statements, trial testimony, and by more recent interview with a news reporter.
2a. Fahey tells Judge in pre-trial Hearing there were 2 searches of Gary's property. No pre-trial Hearing was held due to illegal evidence gathered and testimony reflected details of items seized and/or sent to FBI lab. Both searches occurred while Gary was incarcerated. First search on or about June 22, 23 when furnace was seized. Second was on or about July 24 when property was searched and 5 cadaver dogs brought to site with no alerts of human remains. There is indication from Oaks filing that the July 24 search was by warrant. NOTE: blue van was on property for all days of searching and evidence gathered from that van was also testified to.
3a. Phone records were subpoenaed for the MA witnesses. These witnesses were incorrect about Gary and Sharon being in MA on April 3, 4, 5 with a broken down Caddy because deputies positively viewed the Caddy at Gary's property during that time frame.
4a. Testimony shows that no human remains were found from forensic testing and bone fragments were more consistent with animal.
5a. Evidence first gathered from Richard's van on April 9, 1994 which showed no evidence of Heidi "ever" being in that van. Evidence showed that van was seen at a car wash after April 9. Piece of rug that was missing since the first search was found on Richards property. Property receipt given to Thibodeau's, forensically tested to reveal canine DNA. Witness statement about Richard and Gary seen disposing of a rug in the woods with Heidi's remains was proven false by evidence that Richard was working at the time and no physical evidence that Heidi was there (law enforcement physically went to location). Testimony shows that evidence was taken from the blue van during the search on or about June 22 that did not link to Heidi. Testimony from recent Hearing shows that after August 1994 when the blue van was junked, there was no evidence of Heidi in a rolled rug that was in the van.

Questions that should be answered:
Why is there a 40 minute gap between Brett's testimony of leaving the D&W and the time the book says?
Why did law enforcement and family say Heidi wasn't a CI when a Sergeant recognized her as a CI?
Why wasn't the bulk storage Heidi file boxes made available to Defense?
Why weren't the fingerprints from the index card used in conjunction with the notebook fingerprints?
How did Mike have a fax statement of Bivens with the Oswego County DWI unit phone number?
Why was the first time on the register transaction record 4:06?
Why did Brett testify in Gary's trial that Heidi wasn't afraid of anyone in particular but in Richard's he mentions Matt Duell?
Why does Dodd affirm during a pre-trial Hearing that he was withholding information and wouldn't say what he was withholding if he was going to make "the entire OCSD file" available to Defense?
Why wasn't the fact that Sharon and Richard were acquitted of their charges relevant to Gary's Appeal in 1999?
Why wasn't Wheeler reprimanded for lying during a pre-trial Hearing?
Why isn't Pietrowski being held accountable for missing texts?
Why does Todd keep lying to the public?
Why doesn't Oaks do what's right in the miscarriage of Justice?
How could Heidi's family stand behind law enforcement after all that has been made public?
Why was Jennifer the only recently named given a polygraph?
Why is law enforcement covering for convicted criminals when 3 dogs indicate in an area related to the boasting of several criminals?
Why was an excavator brought to the cabin site without the medical examiner present?
When will the Appellate Division begin hearing oral arguements?
Why was it not relevant to Gary's jurors that several witnesses admitted during trial to misconduct by law enforcement in relation to their written statements?
When will the insanity of "Justice was served" end?
Who will be the first to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the Truth"?
Who will man-up and answer - WHERE'S HEIDI?

Compare the theory of Gary and Richard being involved in the disappearance of Heidi and what is known as Fact and compare that to the recent revelations.....#FreeGary.
                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Lies more lies Oakes
This is how bad the DA office adds to words from Witnesses. Read #179. Bold faced lie. Oakes directs you to exhibit 12, as proof. He says that Roger towed a van and a CADILLAC off Gary's property. Exhibit 12 from Mr. Needles. Says no such thing. He only says that Roger and David Maynes towed a van off Gary's property and Gary was passed. David was bragging about getting arrested for trespassing on Gary's property. Well, if the old junk van sat on Gary's property for over ten years. And it did not run, move, and was never owned by Gary. But the DA wants to give the picture this van could have been used and David and Roger disposed of it. Please, explain why Gary would be pissed for them disposing of what Oakes would like to believe was evidence, or the possible van used. Give me a break, I'm certain if it was, he would have been relieved they got rid of the evidence. Oakes, you sir, are the dumbest DA in this country. You also claim that Kidnapping/murder/disposing of a van across the country lines has a five year statue of limitations. Murder DA jokes has no limitations nor does the evidence in its case. Disposing of evidence with possibly a murdered teen, disposed of in Canada, has no statue of limitations. You sir, must truly think the citizens of Oswego are morons. See attached comments, exhibit 12 and Jokes statue of limitations of five years, to help protect a convicted Murderer Steen. I do not know which ones more psychotic. Ocsd, DA office, or these suspects.

                                                                                                                                                 September 11/16


To Oakes
It can't be simple. Either way. You do not think outside of the box, let alone inside of it. Richard or as your exhibit 12 mr. Needles calls him Dicki Murtagh actually plastered across the internet one night, that he and a employee did haul a van out of Fernwood, off valley road at a red house. Now this red house was very Good friends to Michael Bohrer. It couldn't be Oakes that they covered their ass by moving a van off Gary's property. So they could move this second van on Valley Road. And say it was the van they moved off Gary's. Oakes you can not possibly be that stupid. It's common sense. In which case you lack a shit load, I believe you should track down Mr dicki and request he explain the white van they removed off Valley Road, in Fernwood, for Roger Breckenridge. Around the time of Heidi. If you need a copy of those messages. They can easily be supplied. You also cannot claim it wasn't Murtagh who posted them. A reporter called him out online confirming it was indeed Richard Murtagh.
Omg please no mistake we (3 of us) picked up two vans at gt house ... Me roger & a 3rd person picked up a dift van in fern wood I can't tell you where it was but I'm sure I can drive right to there like I did last week going to Gary's house ( that I had only been to twice before in the 90's
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:25 PM
It was a red house is all we can remember
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:17 PM
I'm sorry I don't I'd just be guessing but one of my helpers just asked me if I remember going to fern wood to get a white van at 1st didn't remember but after talking a bit I do now
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:08 PM
No in fern wood ( I think that's how you spell it
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 11:05 PM
Omg I don't know I just remember him coming to me wanting me to pick one up for him .. Never gave it much thought till tonight talking it over with my staff
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:55 PM
You all ready for this one ????? I do remember going with RB to fern wood to pick up a white van that he had to junk back around same time of the ha deal
Posted on Ground search for 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen ends; no evidence turned up
9/14/2014 10:52 PM
Copied right from Syracuse.com, I think you need to start using the laws set in place that were meant to help victims. Not protect murderers.
I'd also explain to Dickie, those involved. Do not get the reward money.
Is there still a cash award up & if so how much is it .. What you got to do to receive it ty
Posted on Judge in Heidi Allen case reverses decision, will allow DA to respond to wrongful conviction claim
9/19/2014 5:48 PM
Pretty sick Murtagh plastered that across the internet. Then requests the reward money. What a great guy. With zero conscience.

                                                                                                                                           September 11/16

Mrs. Duell testified about the register tape, items purchased and time...??
It strikes me as odd that "The time had to be entered into the memory of the cash register. (Tr. 1488)."

Could it be possible that the register tape was...manipulated when the deputy went back on August 11, 1994 to get the register tape from April 2, 1994? Mrs. Duell's OCSD file was tampered with on August 12, 1994.

RE: Questions to be answered
Deputy Curtis testified in the original trial that the money from the register was deposited in the bank. (DA's Statement of Facts does not state this.)

-Sergeant Lortie specifically calls Heidi a "confidential informant" and recognizes her name from working with the ACT team.
It appears his involvement with the case after this report became limited?

-Family, LE and Dodd's denial that Heidi was a "CI".

-Neither VanPatten nor Mrs. Duell notify Heidi or the family of the information dropped in public.? (Thinking they may have considering Brett would stay at Heidi's work until customer traffic picked up.)

-The informants card, photo, etc was "lost" from the time of the Heidi Center move until it was "found" in bulk storage within OCSD on May 16, 1995.

-Pre-trial Hearing Judge's acknowledgment that Dodd was not going to say what he was holding back as far as discovery.

-No mention whatsoever from either Defense or Prosecution during Gary's trial that Heidi may have been a confidential informant. Dodd didn't carry the card, photo, etc...to the original trial? There were 2 prints on the card taken to the Heidi Center right after the disappearance but LE used notebook prints instead? One would think the prints taken in a controlled manner would be more relevant?

-Mrs. Burr recently signs a statement about Heidi's involvement with LE in an informant capacity up to a short time before her disappearance. Brett's recent dialogue with Oakes about Heidi being afraid of a "coke-head" that lived near the D&W.

**"Good arrest, good conviction"....PPPfffttt**

                                                                                                                                            September 9/16

Lorti Report

“Writer and VanPatten returned to the store and were informed that Inv. Scruton could not locate C.I. file for Allen. VanPatten was Allens contact for ACT Team so writer asked VanPatten if he turned the file over to Inv. Scruton. He did not recall Allen as a C.I. in 1991 until writer reminded him. VanPatten then called the office and had someone check his mailbox. The file was located and relayed to the crime scene.”
Sgt. Lortie’s report 4/27/94

When you see the date of this report 4/27/94 you have to wonder if it was the original or a revised report. Otherwise why would it take 23 days to get it done.

I think everyone knows cops will not rat out other cops but honest cops will not take a hit for crooked ones either. If you ask an honest one to give a statement or testify they will often tell you the facts as they happened. They will not volunteer anything someone in authority has to ask. In many cases those in authority know or suspect the answers they will get so they do not ask the questions, i.e. Watergate and Serpico.

At any rate that just may be what is happening in the paragraph above. After 23 days Sgt. Lortie has had time to think over what has been going on.


VanPatten somehow manages to lose Allen’s picture ID card indicating she was an informant, and he does it in the parking lot where she works.


Three years after working directly with Allen as a Confidential Informant he tells Sgt. Lortie he does not remember her. Then in the next breath VanPatten knows exactly where to find Allen’s missing C.I. file.

At that point someone should have been asking VanPatten to account for his whereabouts on the morning of April 3/1994.


re Timleine
According to testimony from Brett Law, he left the store at 6:35am BUT according to the book “Where’s Heidi” page 27, Brett left at 7:15am. Which is it? It makes a VERY big difference. 40 minute difference. The difference between the inmates being truthful or not.
According to the timeline, there were no customers between 7:20am and 7:38am. That would leave 18 minutes for the “confession” to be true.

It takes about 16 minutes one way from the D&W to Gary’s house.

                                                                                                                                            September 8/16

Questions That Should Be Answered!

Sunday, April 3 1994 @ 2:00 AM was the beginning of daylight savings time.

Was every witness interviewed asked if they were referencing their recollection of time based on standard time or had they set their clocks ahead and based their statements on savings time????

“The first entry on the tape was 4:06 when the cash register was turned on.”
“When Heidi arrived at work she set the time on the cash register”
“The detail tape then showed three zeros and then gave the correct time of 5:55 am.”
Therefore Heidi “started her drawer at five minutes to 6:00 am.”

If Heidi was setting the time on the register because of daylight savings time Then the register should have shown the time as 4:55 when it was turned on.

Why was it at 4:06? AM? PM?
Did the register keep the correct time?

“6:16 am no sale entry on detail tape (Tr. 1515)”
Nine minutes before her boyfriend Bret Law left the store
someone hits the no sale button presumably to open the cash drawer. Did anyone balance the money in the drawer with the sales listed on the tape? Was all accounted for? If the answer is yes then what was the reason for the no sale entry?

At 5:45 Bret and Heidi wake up.
At 5:50 the two get in a car and drive to the store.

Are we talking about a couple of average teenagers or is this Wonder Woman and Superman?
Come on, who do you know that wakes up from a sound sleep, gets dressed, brushes their hair, maybe teeth and puts on makeup and is out the door in five minutes?

Scientifically impossible
If you actually looked at the timeline.
At 7:41 stitson arrives, at 7:41 a man cashes out he buys one pack of smokes and two newspapers. At 7:41 Stitson describes the store clerk missing. At 7:42 Richard shows up buys smokes. In the mean time. The 7:41 customer packs his smokes in his car, watches Richard enter and exit the store. Mean while stitson in the store waiting on the clerk, as Richard passes him, cashes out and is never seen by Stitson. As Richard cash out time was 7:42. So the kidnapping didn't take place from 7:41 -7:42 it took place between 7:43/7:44. At 7:45 a cop was on the scene and at 7:45 a van is seen in the town of Mexico ten miles away. By science you'd have to be traveling over 150 mph to make it in two minutes to where the van was spotted in Mexico. The time line is scientifically impossible. How does Heidi, the newspaper customer,Stitson and thibodeau all appear on the scene together. No one saw Gary or Heidi being taken. How do you travel 150 mph, on snowy roads?
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Here's another exaggerated example of OCSD, AND DODD.
SOMETIME between 7:30 / 7:45 a.m. umm not. Richard never cashed out until 7:42 a.m. the van was seen three minutes later at 7:45 a.m. we know she had cashed Richard out at 7:42 a.m. So between 7:43/7:45 is the only time that van could have been spotted in Mexico. Two minutes. Use a speed converter online you are up over one hundred and fifty mph, they'd have been traveling to be in Mexico at 7:45 a.m. Dodd did nothing but cross witnesses with other witnesses and confuse everyone with so many times, dates and so many witnesses. He messed up. Four people would have been on the scene. Not just Richard or Stitson. But the man whom bought the two newspapers clearly says he sat in his car for a minute and watched Richard exit the store. So that would have taken place after 7:42 a.m. we can determine these times due to the cash register receipt and the evidence Dodd entered in court on his time line of events. Which none of it adds up. There was no 7:30 a.m.to 7:45 a.m. Richard had not cashed out yet. So if the van was seen between these times. It clearly wasn't Richards van.
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Bobby Wheeler

April 14, 1994-Bobby interviews Dan Barney "at length" but doesn't take notes or record the interview.?
April 14, 1994-Gary becomes "prime suspect" in briefing which Bobby attended.
May 19, 1994-Bobby receives fax from MA police about Gary's warrant.
May 25, 1994-Gary arrested on the warrant.
Late July 1994-Bobby and Herb interview both inmates.

April 18, 1995-Bobby testifies at a pre-trial (Huntley) hearing that he didn't know Gary was a suspect before his warrant arrest.
May 1, 1995-Fahey files pre-trial Motion, in part, to request sanctions against Bobby for lying during the pre-trial Hearing (Huntley Hearing).
                                                                                                                                            September 7/16

Re:Gary Thibodeau
Whoever you are supporting Gary Thibodeau and ripping apart the filing from the DA, outstanding. Some things you posted. I missed. Keep it up. They deserve any humiliation that comes their way. If the community cared about their environment and the sick things the DA and Officers in that county have done. They'd have a better community and safer community for themselves and their families. Instead the majority doesn't stop to smell the roses. If they did. They'd realise they do not smell so grand after all. It takes a big person to not only help, but to spend time paying attention and caring about others. Many have helped. Many still are. I can not wait to see these aholes from Oswego face the lies they've dished out for years. I can only imagine how many other cases they have botched to get a conviction. Dodd was told then you have zero evidence. He will be told again, in supreme. How awful a person they all are for incarceration of an innocent man. Dodd deserves prision, Oakes to be removed from office, sheriff Todd deserves to be a greeter at wal Mart. Petrowski deserves a set of cuffs. Wheeler prison, along with any idiot officer that helped go along with the bull shit in 1994/1995. I pray that they all have repercussions they can not stop. They have put many people through abuse of power. That's exactly what they used to get any convictions through that made zero sense. Gary deserves more than just his freedom. Hopefully with good citizens like you Gary will gain just that.
                                                                                                                                              September 3-4/16

Gary Thibodeau

What is wrong with this timeline found at the end of Oakes’ Statement of Facts filed during the Hearing?

No other customers at the D&W between 6:35am that Brett testified to and a customer, Mr. Wiltse at 7:38am? Why do notes from the Exhibits show there WERE other customers that made purchases between those times?

If Heidi was scheduled from 6am to 3pm, why is 4:06am first reported on the register tape if Heidi didn’t arrive until 4:55am(excluding the hour of DST)?

This timeline Can Not be accurate but was presented at Gary’s trial.


                                                                                                                                                   September 2/16







Today's  Quote  September 1/2016

 “Too much agreement kills a chat.”
Eldridge Cleaver

Oakes and Dodd, including Todd
They are not dealing with a small town attorney. Lisa Peebles is a powerful person. If anything happened to Gary, it does not mean any of this is going to stop. Gary asked Lisa if something did happen to finish this case. To clear his name and to bring Heidi family the truth. So no matter what they do. This is not going away. Gary's case will hit supreme court and national news. It's far from done. It has only just begun. Oakes is simply a coward. He questions the integrity of the sheriff dept and the investigator but stands by the fraudulent case. Then you got Todd who says he had very little to do with this case back then but stands by a case he seems to have had very little to do with. But a whole lotta say on what's factual or untrue. Wouldn't be because his brother helped Dodd prosecute this case. Couldn't be to much pride, based on nothing but lies. Pathetic. Supreme court on Gary's last case. They made it very clear. That just the diary wasn't enough to over turn the conviction. Many cases have been over turned for far less and many have had probes in to the cases and activing investigators, and DA office. Gary will go home. It's just a matter of time.
                                                                                                                                                   September 1/16


Today's  Quote  August 31/2016

“If you don't think too good, don't think too much”
Ted Williams

I hope Garys lawyer files a big fat lawsuit on the county when all this is over.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

Gary Thibedeou
What is the Oswego Sheriff hiding? This case was a giant miscarriage of justice. Let Gary free before he dies in prison.
                                                                                                                                                   August 31/16

I think that has been the plan all along. Oaks keeps waiting until the eleventh hour to file documents. He and Dodd hope Thibedeou will die in jail and that will be the end of it all. This whole thing has the same stench as the Tony Pauldine trial and the get-out-of-jail-free deal that was given to Smegelsky.




Today's  Quote  August 30/2016

“If I were dying my last words would be: Have faith and pursue the unknown end”

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.


Gary Fiasco

Re Todd, Moody, Oakes, Dodd
"After twenty years I can't believe I have to tell you there is another van. " Wescott
"If you look in to reports of a van watching the video store CLERK in 1994 you might find information on the van." -Bohrer 1995 FBI statement.
"I asked Murtagh if I had hauled a stolen van used in Heidi kidnapping." -Steen
"The van we hauled off Gary's property sat out there for over ten years." -Breckenridge
" I do recall moving a van for Breckenridge back then off Valley Road. -online statement from Richard Murtagh
"Steen and Roger were talking about getting rid of the van, I was afraid Roger would go with Steen. She left came back. Roger left early that morning his ex wife says.
Ocsd, and the rest of the bafoons also have Stitson there on the scene by their time line as Richard and Gary would have pulled off this crime.
There was a scratch in the panel of a bath room wall. On the interstate headed towards buffalo. The said Heidi Allen was a rat. Hmmm wonder who was using the interstate towards Canada. Maybe the fellas junking the van. Just a guess. This will all be exposed, in supreme.  Jennifer Wescott was given repeated chances to tell the entire truth. I think even her chances are up. Such a believer in God Jennifer was during the hearing. She better start praying.

                                                                                                                                                         August 30/16


Dear Todd, Oakes and Dodd
If Dave Stinson was at the D&W from 7:41-7:45 and Richard bought cigarettes at 7:42 plus kidnapped Heidi, why didn't Stinson see the crime?

Never mind, it'll come up in the appeal trial.
                                                                                                                                                   August 28-29/16


Time line at D&W doesn't make sense: From the DA Statement of Facts.
7:41 Stinson arrives at the D&W
7:42 last transaction on register...Richard bought cigs.
Stinson must have entered the store just after 7:42 between 7:42 and 7:45.
7:45 Stinson waves down Deputy Curtis 3 minutes after Richard left. How could he not have seen Richard taking her?

Stinson was there from 7:41 - 7:45 when he flagged down the Deputy.

Richard bought cigs at 7:42 and left presumably with Heidi Allen and Gary kidnapping her but Stinson didn't see him.

So Stinson must have entered the store after Richard left and no Heidi.

Why didn't Stinson see Richard kidnap Heidi, he was there one minute before the last sale at 7:42 which we are told was Richards.

7:45 Mrs. Fabin sees van swerving behind her in Mexico
7:48 Brittany Link sees Richards van at Garys

So that means Stinson didn't see him but he was there.
Richard drove from the D&W at 7:42 to Mexico and then to Gary's all in 3 minutes.

Who was there from 7:42 to 7:45 when Stinson waved down Deputy Curtis?
How could this possibly happen?  Why isn't there a time for when Bivens went by the D&W in the DA's Facts? He said he didn't recall  telling a deputy that he dove by between 8-8:30 and saw 2 men abducting Heidi....impossible, Stinson said she was gone when he entered the store at about 7:42.

There's something really wrong going on here.

                                                                                                                                                       August 25/16


Watch key witness in Heidi Allen kidnapping case take lie detector (video)


                                                                                                                                            May 11/16









Today's  Quote  May 6/2016

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Karl Marx


Do You Want This Guy Spraying Hazardous Chemicals

In The Parks Where Your Children and Pets Play?


Council Poised To Reconsider Herbicide Vote
Council awarding contract to fireman's business, ???????




                                                                                                                           Jan 11/16



Neither the Federal nor the State governments

have ever mandated that the City of Oswego

raise its water or sewer rates.

Anyone who says they did is a F**KING LIAR!!!!!!








Today's Quote  August 6/15

“It's your life. Live it with people who are alive. It tends to be contagious.”
Peter McWilliams


Oswego Firefighter Sentenced

Last night in Minetto Town Court Oswego firefighter and former Minetto fire chief Joe Smegelsky Jr. received the maximum sentence of $1000 and two years probation despite arguments from the District Attorney Greg Oaks and defense lawyer Timothy Kirwan. They had hoped for a lesser sentence but based on information in Smegelsky's pre sentencing report the maximum punishment was handed down.


An audit by the State Comptrollers office found that Smegelsky had taken funds and used a department credit card to purchase a handgun, automotive parts and assorted items. He also created a fictitious company which sold fire equipment from undisclosed sources to the Minetto Department. District Attorney Oaks repeatedly argued for special treatment because Smegelsky had paid back slightly less than half of what the Comptrollers office found. However the fact remains he paid nothing back until he was caught.



Joeseph Smegelsky Jr.


Below is a copy of the District Attorney's plea bargain and his explaination of how they arrived at it.

If you enjoy fiction you will love this.








Today's Quote, January 26/15

"I am not an enemy of the negro, we want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have."
Nathan Bedford Forrest


One week ago we celebrated Martin Luther King Day. I am sure members of the Ozwego Fire Department seized the opportunity to rack up some double overtime but that is about the only use they have for non-whites.

Since its inception in 1876 the Oswego Fire Department has been as white as the driven snow, with respect to the color of its members that is. In its 139 year history there has never been an Asian, Black or Hispanic member. If you think this somehow reflects the population then you better take off your blinders. Oswego’s elected officials and Personnel Department have long allowed department members to live as far away as Montour Falls, Watertown, and Groton. There is no way you can cast a net that far and say, that population is reflected by our department.

In the late 1980’s there was young Black man working for the local cable company who sometimes frequented the Fire House Tavern as did members of the OFD. The firefighters exam had been announced and he was asking some of the OFD members if they thought he had a chance of getting in. He received all kinds of encouragement while he was there but after he left I overheard two of the Heroes chuckling and say no way they were going to let him in the department. “We have Guinias and Polocks and that is as integrated as we are going to get.” I do not know if the man ever took the test but the fact is that department remains as segregated as the day it was formed. They are allowed to operate as their own little fiefdom picking and choosing their own white membership and no one has the balls to put a stop to it.

The next time our Senators and Congressmen come around for their photo ops with our Hero Department we should all point out to the national media how they are supporting a racist organization. Perhaps we should ask the NAACP how this has been overlooked by their organization for so long.
                                                                                                                            Jan 26/15





Joseph Smegelsky


Audit of Minetto fire chief charged with misusing $22K in funds for guns, motorcycle parts completed
"This individual had keys to the cash register and went on a spending spree with the fire company's money," DiNapoli said in a statement.


                                                                                                                    Dec 20/14

Today's Quote, July 2/14


“Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.”
G. K. Chesterton


Oswego's finest screwing the taxpayers once again spotted at Dicks Sporting Goods in Great Northern Mall on 6/22/14.....didn't know they sold food there....or were they perhaps getting a new set up clubs at our expense??? Would still like to see the tab for the turning stone "conference" they went to....a whole weekend at the turning stone??? meals, rooms, drinks, etc???? The worst part is it will never change. No matter who is mayor they will always be controlled by the f.d. and no one will run against our current council members. Oswego has become homeowners to few (I stand corrected good homeowners) and is a city full of renters.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

That was probably just Smegelsky picking up some guns. They should be checking the video at Dicks to see who was with him. That hero should be arrested too.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Chief
People like that are paranpiod about someone else stealing what they just stole so naturally he would need to get a gun to protect all his or should I say our stuff.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14


Ambulance Numbers

Yes, they are not as correct as they should be as I left off the 2 additional firemen that go out on Ambulance #2 and many of the other expenses that can be attributed to the ambulance service . In reality here is a $300,000 loss each year without he expense of a new ambulance. The point is, we will never make a profit on this service; have a fully qualified ambulance located in Oswego (Menter) that can handle all emergencies; could cut 15 men from the department with all their benefits and return $2,000,000 to the taxpayers; while cutting the long term obligation of retirement and the padding of such for years to come.
Unfortunately, the obtuse Mayor, Council, and most of all ,Fire Chief, have another agenda and it is not in the best interest of he taxpayers. McCrobie probably was, at one time, a good fireman, but as a chief and leader lacks in total credibility. The way overtime is handed out only shows that he is helping to bump up he retirement of the soon to retire firemen by thousands of taxpayers dollars. There is a belief that hey will all get their turn is the OT merry-go-round, but the fact is, the tier 6 firemen will never see that benefit. The new anti padding law passed and signed by he governor will not allow tier 6 employees to add any more than $15,000 to their retirement benefits, and they will now have to go for the last 5 years instead of 3. If I were a tier 6, I would tell the tier 5's to stick their $50.00 they pay for the OT and start taking their share of the OT, because it will all be ending when all the tier 5's retire.
                                                                                                                    July 2/14

Minetto Fire Chief
I asked a few weeks ago if anybody knew what was going on with Minetto's Fire Chief well here you go.
Stole $20,000 from the fire department. I'm going to guess he possibly stole more since he's being held with no bail. Coinsedently though he just bought a piece of property behind his own for $20,000. Don't believe me? Here's the property taxes. Coincident? You should take a drive by his property to check it out. Constantly cars & trucks are being 'stored' there and then disappear. Camper was there for a whole summer now that's gone. I even seen the Minetto's fire truck pull up to his vacant property hook on a utility trailer with all the fireman in it and take off. Now Minetto Fire Dept has plenty of property to store at their station. Why would they use his? I offend wondered why a property owner who only has 1/4 acre of grass need a 0 point turn lawn mower? Probably the fire departments.


                                                                                                                    July 2/14




Reporting Welfare Fraud
If you suspect, or have knowledge of a social services client fraudulently receiving assistance from Public Assistance, Food Stamps or Home Energy Assistance (HEAP), you should report it to the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance.




Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force 



Secret Service Electronic Crime Task Force




RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.

Office of the State Comptroller

Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502



Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State Street

Albany, N.Y.   12236-0001


New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271



New York State Reigonal Office of the Attorney General
615 Erie Boulevard West, Suite 102
Syracuse, NY 13204
Phone Number: (315)448-4800

Consumer Frauds Number: (315)448-4848
Fax Numers:
(315)448-4853 (Main Number)
(315)448-4851 (Consumer Frauds Bureau)
Office Hours: 8:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Friday

United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261

New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252


New York State Police
Fulton, NY

6 East 12th Street,

Fulton, NY 13069



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