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Today's Quote August 1/10
"Many of the "abuses" of today were the "reforms" of yesterday"
Thomas Sowell
Saint Johns Church
EARLY SIGNS OF MASONRY FAILURE
In the Oswego area you will find two basic kinds of red clay brick. Hard brick is sun/air-dried and kiln-fired. Soft brick is only sun/air-dried. Sometimes the cheaper sun-dried was used as a first course then covered with a top course of the more expensive kiln-dried brick. Sometimes you would find the good brick on the front and sides of a building and the cheaper on the back side. In other cases entire buildings were constructed of the soft brick. It is more porous and therefore more susceptible to degradation from the elements.
The top of this chimney (left) shows signs of previous pointing maintenance but with no apparent cap the rainwater has been penetrating the bricks and joints. When you have this moisture during the freeze and thaw seasons the frost literally breaks off portions of the brick and forces the mortar from the joints. (right)
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In some areas shingles are curling and lifting, while others (arrow) are missing altogether. A neglected bad roof = rot and rain infiltration = structural failure.

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In our geographic location the south side of a building always takes a beating and the entire south side of St. Johns shows it especially the bell tower. The spires show signs of extensive repair but the question is just how good they are underneath the layers of paint and parging. Buildings of this size and age should be inspected by a qualified structural engineer on at least a semi-annual basis.
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You don't have to go far to find buildings with these problems. We walk and drive by them every day and no one pays attention, that is until one of them falls. Maybe if our mayor pulled his head out of his ass he would see them too. Oh golly gee, I'm forgetting what mayor Bateman told me "If you don't go looking for problems you won't find any".
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TICK! TICK! TICK!
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Art show at the Little Red School House
There is going to be many local artist and artistans at the Sterling Historical Society Little Red School House this Sunday Aug. 1 from 10-5. If it rains it will be the 8th of Aug. If you come we will be very happy to see you and hopefully get to chat a while. Also you might want to look at all the changes at the Little Red School House. Carol
August 1/10
Erik Cole - Dream Big---Small
I'm not going to redicule Erik Cole or anyone in his family for this post. I don't believe they have anything to do with it or know what has happened. Mr. Kevin "C*ckS*ck*r" Caroccoli and whoever else is in charge of the Erik Cole Dream Big Golf & Hockey Tournament decided not to send e-mails or letters to local businesses this year advertising the said events. First, my kids are devestated that they were not asked and are not playing on Sunday. This was something that they looked forward to for the past two summers. Secondly, I own a local business that has sponsored this tournament from the get go, and did not receive ANYTHING related to the event. Trust me, they have my e-mail. Maybe, Kevin, in your higher wisdom, is my business not worthy of support. Do you really need two teams from Novellis, Entergy, Constellation, Oswego Hospital, Oswego State, etc. before you really care about the local businesses that will support minor hockey and this weekend in general. I'm sorry our business isn't up to Mr. Caroccoli's standards, but I think it is.
August 1/10
RE" "You poor fool. You are so racist, you don’t even realize you are a racist. Your words: ‘BEING BLACK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, OTHER THAN HE HAS THE BLACK ATTITUDE OF ENTITELMENT”
DUHHHH! what does being black have to do with it, his mother was "white" so why does that make him black. You damn hypocritic socialists are the ones using the race game. I was upset at President Bush when he wouldn't strengthen the borders right along with President Clinton who actually made his presidency work. He (Clinton) made it work by discussing issues with a Republican Congress and Senate, something this poor excuse for a president can't seem to do.
Now you slow minded lefty soldier of ignorance how do you find its always the right in the wrong and never can see where the left has brought this country. If you think quadrupling our deficit is okay just because it happens to be a democrat then you truly are blind. Adding to the fact that he has been involved with a number of left wing nut cases from the 60's and racial biased friends and a preacher. You are right, if this were Bush and he was doing exactly what this president is being accussed of not only would you be asking for his resignation but so would I, and I gaurantee, millions of right wingers would be in that line of thinking.
So you keep burying your blind head in the sand and I'll keep reminding you just how stupid you really are and you can continue to see me as a racist. Because that seems to always make people like you seem so much superior, in your mind.
August 1/10
"Our City Is Broke And Mayor Bateman Is Desparate For Any Money He Can Get His Hands On"
Let me tell you of an ingenious plan that Mayor Numbnuts and the eunuch brained members of the city council came up with to raise more money to help finance more Hudders to come to our (once) fair city.
There was a time not too long ago when area boaters had to put their names on a waiting list to rent a slip at the city owned Wright's Landing Marina. The place was always filled up.
Then the wack jobs that try to run the city said, "Hey, if we jack up the annual rental fee, we can make so much more money at the expense of the rich boaters"
So they raised the fee several hundred bucks a slip per year. Guess what, the slips are less than half filled.
The city fathers can pat themselve on the back for their brilliant accomplishment. And the hudders keep pouring in anyway.
August 1/10
Not dead yet:
A group of progressive lawmakers have sent their colleagues a letter encouraging the adoption of a single-payer health system: "Now that a new health care bill has been signed into law, it has never been more important to have a strong movement behind Medicare for All," wrote Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers. "The truth is not enough. We already know that such a health care system has repeatedly proven to control costs more effectively, cover everyone or almost everyone, and deliver care of significantly higher quality than health care systems that tolerate the presence of private health insurance companies. Now we must make it so that the truth can no longer be ignored."
August 1/10
Tax cuts
Only 47% of Americans pay any tax at all. The "wealthy" pay about 80% of the taxes, I think it is actually more. Anyway - the "poor" don't help push the cart, they ride in it.
How do you tax people who never paid, or how do you give them tax breaks. Of course there are some tax breaks, but if you don't pay any taxes - no breaks. So---yes, the wealthy get the breaks as they carry the load.
August 1/10
LACKAWANA FREIGHT HOUSE
Ed, I agree in part with your observation of the train station. The stones on top of the cap are a joke, and that parapat wall is very dangerous as well as the window lintel that needs supported. 6x6 timbers would probably be in order here, if not 12" concrete block. As for the rest of the structure, I believe that the walls are 4-6 feet thick with a frame of 12 inch timbers. While there's no doubt structural damage that needs immediate repair, some of it could be superficial to mainly the exterior that perhaps doesn't extend all the way through the main walls. At any rate, repairs are long overdue, and the work that has been done is shoddy at best that couldn't even rise to the level of a "cob job". This particular structure should have a safety or chain link fence around it to perserve its historical signifigance while keeping people at distance, as well as "No Trespassing" signs. I believe this approach would be in the interest of everyone and should be considered before the wrecking ball. A good experienced mason should be able to make the necesscary repairs. Finding a good experienced mayor and code inspector to make that happen may be much more difficult.
August 1/10
The station was across Second street on the same side of Utica St. I have a picture somewhere. This was the freight house and the broken lintel is over one of the loading doors. Just below the door you can see the exposed end of one of the floor timbers. They probably had corresponding timbers extending outside the building to support the loading platform. My best guess is the walls are between 20 and 24 inches. You can see this where the courses lap at the corners and in this picture of the upper window. The arrow points to one of the anchors that would have held a power line or telegraph insulator. In the early 60s I believe the platform or the remains of it was still there. Neal & O'Brien used to unload boxcars of lumber there and truck it down to their yard on Water St.

With three months left before the elections and with the GOP fielding a group of extremist candidates, I think that the Democrats are in pretty good shape. As the campaign progresses and intensifies the electorate will be further exposed to the simple truth; Republicans truly are the party of "no". They have NO policies, NO suggestions, NO plans, NO answers, etc., other than the ones that got us into this mess in the first place. It's a really easy choice, America. Give the Democrats a chance. The years long GOP approved culture of unbridled greed, selfishness and cronyism can't be rectified in 18 months. If the Republicans regain control of the US government they will drive the last nails in the coffin of the middle class, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.
August 1/10
RE: "Sarah Palin is criticizing President Barack Obama for appearing on "The View."
The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee said Thursday on Twitter that Obama has "no time" to visit the U.S.-Mexico border yet can chat on the ABC daytime talk show."
Hey dingbat, did you notice just how tough all the questions were that they directed at him. Some other poster a few days ago was right on target with those dizzy broads. I bet They all had to go and change their underwear after he left.
Yet you and you idiotic friends are all on the bandwagon to criticize anything Sara Palin does. Your as bad as the lefty wing drive-by media that can't hound her enough.
I guess you lefty idiots and the media really are afraid of what Sara and her message are going to do with your socialist agenda for America. Kool-aid is waiting
August 1/10
RE: Edited video of Sherrod
You know that's a bald-faced lie. People, see for yourself. Here is the complete speech. Don't listen to this bigot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9NcCa_KjXk
Poster, you should be ashamed, but of course you are not.
August 1/10
RE: Social Security Myths
This poster tries to counter the facts about Social Security with the myths promoted by progressives.
First, Social Security is going broke for all practical purposes. There is no "TRUST FUND," all that exists are the government securities that will be cashed in when the expenditures exceed the income and that has already happened by some accounts. These government securities are IOU's and nothing more. Since the Obama regime has been selling such securities to foreign countries in massive quantities to cover his outrageous expenditures, China in particular, these securities could become worthless at the whim of the Chinese leaders. There is no surplus in the Social Security "Trust Fund" and according the the national debt clock the current, unfunded Social Security debt is about 14.5 trillion dollars. That's trillion with a "T." Very simply put out money has been grossly mismanaged by the government.
Second, the poster uses some confused, contorted and simply wrong logic to claim that raising the retirement age, reducing benefits or increasing SS taxes isn't necessary. Sure, fewer children die due to our advances in medicine but let us not forget that some 50,000,000 children have been murdered in the past 40 years because of abortions. Those of us who have survived the gauntlet of abortion, disease and the rest of life's dangers tend to live much longer than those in the 1930's or 1940's who beat the survival odds at that time. Far fewer people lived to 65 in the 30's, 40's, and 50's than do now and many more now live into their 90's. Therefore something has to give.
Since there are fewer workers supporting each retiree there is far less money coming into SS and far more going out. I do not like the choices that are before us but that will not make them go away. The longer we wait to make those choices the harder they will be and the more drastic they will be.
Third, here is more of that progressive talking point about making the rich pay their fair share. What is their fair share? Who determines what it is? Even if we tax 100% of salaries for SS there still will not be enough money in the pot to cover expenses. All of the "fixes" that have passed through Congress in the past 50 years have done nothing more than postpone the inevitable because the whole Social Security system was based on an unsustainable premise from the beginning.
Fourth, we return to the first point about the IOU's in the SS fund. Since Obama is destroying the "full faith and credit of the United States" such Treasury Bonds will soon become virtually worthless. Besides, where do you think that money comes from when the bonds are cashed in? They money comes right out of the US Treasury which will probably have to print more just to keep up and that will drastically increase inflation. Either that or the government will have to drastically cut other programs to cover the costs. However you look at it the money has to come from the government and if it isn't covered by the Treasury's income it must come from an increase in the debt because there is no "FUND" from which it can be withdrawn. All of the pockets are in the same pair of pants so it's nothing more than changing pockets or robbing Peter to pay Paul if you prefer that analogy.
Lastly, the poster hits upon the accounting gimmick that the government has been using for decades to hide the looming disaster that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other entitlement programs represent. These programs were moved "off budget" many years ago hide their specifics. However, again this is nothing more than shifting money from one pocket to another that are in the same pair of pants. Unfortunately for this poster his position that SS doesn't add one penny to the deficit clearly shows his ignorance with regard to these programs and simple economics. It doesn't matter if the government adds the SS deficiencies to the yearly deficit or not those deficiencies are still there and must be paid by the government and that is all part of the NATIONAL DEBT.
As I said above, Social Security was established based upon an unsustainable premise requiring current workers to support current retirees. It all worked well when there were a lot of workers for each retiree but that has changed over the years. Social Security is nothing more than the biggest Ponzi Scheme that was ever forced on a population. Simply put, in a Ponzi Scheme new members pay older members and expect to be paid by yet newer members and on and on. The problem is that there aren't enough people on the planet to make any Ponzi Scheme work which is why they are against the law. Bernard Madoff fleeced people out of a trifling $50 billion which is nothing compared to the SS rip off.
Read the article in the link below and learn the truth about the Social Security Ponzi Scheme. This explanation of the fraud that Social Security is was written by Walter E. Williams, a noted economist and professor of economy at George Mason University.
Doc Bill
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/article/43184
August 1/10
The Death Of The Global Warming Movement
This sounds too good to be true. Anthropomorphic Global Warming has been proved to be a hoax promulgated by the UN and others in an effort to increase their power over the people of the Earth. However, I rather doubt that the issue has been put to rest and that the econazis will be back at it again very soon. They never give up as can be seen by recent reports trumpeting global warming in spite of the evidence that they concocted the whole thing in a grab for power.
Read the article in the link below and learn what we hope is the truth about the death of this contemptible movement.
Doc Bill
http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/28/climate-change-movement-harry-reid-opinions-columnists-shikha-dalmia.html
August 1/10
Seven Deceptive Mainstream Media Techniques
Read the article in the link below and learn the truth about how the ObamaMedia deceives the people with their manipulation of the news.
Doc Bill
http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2010/07
/27/seven_deceptive_mainstream_media_techniques
August 1/10
My Klan Robes
With regards to my wearing a Klu KIlux Klan outfit and being racist.
My robes were donated to bury Senator Robert Byrd - Democrat and very high official of the Klan, in.
I am having new ones made.
When a violent crime is reported nobody even looks up to see the photo of the perp - 99 times out of 100, the perp is black.
The Liberals fought the Civl rights bills in the 60's tooth and nail - what hypocrits!
How come now that we have a black president it is racist to question him, or question his never ending black appointees. It is treason to question a Liberal President, but Patriotic if he is white and conservative. Is that how it works.
This guy has a chip on his black shoulder against whites and America. The liberal professors and organizers taught him well. Even the Dems are starting to hate him.
I predict he will have a meltdown somewhere along the line. Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters, Jones and on and on. As I said, I don't even look up when crimes are reported, they all look the same to most of us.
August 1/10
Today's Quote July 31/10
"When you are younger you get blamed for crimes you never committed and when you're older you begin to get credit for virtues you never possessed. It evens itself out."
Casey Stengel
LAKAWANA FREIGHT HOUSE
ON WEST UTICA ST BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD STREET
ANOTHER DECREPIT BUILDING WAITING TO KILL SOMEONE

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ABOVE
THE PARAPET AND ENTIRE NORTH WEST CORNER ARE BREAKING AWAY IN ONE HUGE SECTION. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE HOLES IN THE MORTAR AND STONE BIG ENOUGH TO THROW A CAT THROUGH. BELOW IS THE NORTH FACE OF THE SAME CORNER AND BELOW THAT IS THE BACK SIDE OF THE NORTH WEST PARAPET.
YES! ROCKS HAVE BEEN PLACED ON SOME OF THE CAPPING STONES TO WEIGHT THEM DOWN AND HOLD THEM IN PLACE
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THESE ARE THE CRUMBLING WALLS AND LINTEL ON THE NORTH SIDE FACING UTICA STREET.
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BELOW LEFT IS THE PARABIT WALL ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER.
oN THE RIGHT IS A WINDOW STILL CHARRED FROM A FIRE SET BY VANDALS ABOUT THIRTY YEARS AGO. THERE ARE TWO SHEETS OF PLYWOOD LEANING AGAINST IT BUT NOTHING TO STOP THE RAIN COMMING FRON THE SOUTH EAST TO NORTH EAST
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THIS IS THE TOP OF THE EAST WALL WHICH IS NO MORE THAN ABOUT TEN FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK. ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS ONE STONE FROM ANY OF THESE WALLS TO MAIM OR KILL SOMEONE

SURELY THE ONLY THING HOLDING THIS BUILDING UP IS THE PRAYERS OF THE LONG SINCE DEAD ARTISANS WHO CONSTRUCTED IT 150 - 200 YEARS AGO. SURE IT IS A HISTORIC LANDMARK OF OSWEGO BUT IN OSWEGO LANDMARKS CAN BE VERY DEADLY.
OTHER THAN THE ROOF NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO REPAIR OR RESTORE THIS BUILDING FOR THE LAST THIRTY EIGHT YEARS AT LEAST.
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RE: Tony Bologna
Rumors of "burrowing" ED? Don't you just love a good Freudian Slip?
LUCULENT
July 31/10
Well you know how those people are, any port in a storm.
Obama sets record straight on religion - Politics - Decision '08 -
Barack Obama News - msnbc.com. The first slap in our faces .And who do you suppose aproves?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22767392/
July 31/10
The Clubhouse Tavern
I've been away from Oswego for many years but do keep up with the lion's site. Could someone please tell me where The Clubhouse Tavern and Spencer's Alley is located. I can't tell by the photo. Oswego was such a great place to grow up in and often wonder why the town became so neglected over the years. The buildings were old to begin with when I was young so can see why they're crumbling but it's too bad the owners never kept them repaired. What a shame to let a town go like that.
Thank you for any information on the streets.
July 31/10
W 2nd & Bridge … do you remember Kendigs and the Thunderbird Gift Shop?
Is This One of Your Neighbors?
Oswego PD 07/30/2010
Tiffany J. Furlong, 21, of 1024 County Route 3, Hannibal
The subject was charged at about 6:46 p.m. July 26 with petit larceny.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after an investigation determined that the defendant allegedly stole a purse valued at $8 from Bodified, 25 W. Bridge St.
She is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
July 31/10
This is their religion?
http://blogs.tampabay.com/photo/2009/11/terrorism-thats-personal.html
July 31/10
This coming from the woman who would rather tour all over the country spreading her lies and propaganda while her kids are home....
I'm starting to understand why Bristol became a mother at such a young age....kid s seem to be a nice idea for Palin....b ut actually raising them....gu iding them.....s he has no clue!
But seriously, who didn't see this coming from the ex-governor turned professional Facebook status updater???
Sarah Palin is criticizing President Barack Obama for appearing on "The View."
The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee said Thursday on Twitter that Obama has "no time" to visit the U.S.-Mexico border yet can chat on the ABC daytime talk show.
She says she plans to visit to what she calls the "porous" border "in the near future." She wasn't specific.
A White House spokesman didn't immediately offer comment.
The administration has taken steps to address the border security issue, including Obama's decision that will send 1,200 National Guard troops to the region this weekend.
Palin has taken shots at Obama before, including over his handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill and what she called his lack of executive experience before assuming the presidency.
Mental Health Clinic
What is the big deal with these neighbors on Pond Path?
All the woman wants to do is have a small home based mental health counseling clinic.
It is not like she was going to be treating Wahrendorfs.
July 31/10
She did say she would be treating firemen. I can understand the neighbors objections in that case.
Edited video of Sherrod
The video was not edited,period. This woman, and most blacks in Government are racially biased, just like our President.
The reason the whole video was not shown was none of you progressives have a long enough attention span to watch it all. She discriminated against a white man…period.
This creature has a long history of racial activism as does her husband, as well as fling frivolous lawsuits. Breitbart did nothing actionable.
July 31/10
Republicans are the party of NO. NO choice, NO jobs, NO Nothing. Oh yeah, Yes to tax cuts for the wealthy
July 31/10
American Legion sign in Minetto
Ed
Even in our small town of Minetto there is controversy..Members of American Legion Post 486 erected a sign last year in the park called riverview where the monument for fallen veterans is located.We thought that we had approval.The erection of the sign was to let the public know that there indeed was a legion in Minetto & felt this was the best place for it .Membership is dwindling as older vets pass on & we are in dire need of new members .There were complaints from a few (3 or 4) people from a volunteer group that help maintain the park.The town board had the sign removed & said go to the planning board(this was done )a vote was taken & a tie was the result.A very bias report was then submitted to the town supervisor,stating the negative portions of the meeting & not mentioning the support for it.We expect a town board vote on the matter the 2nd mon of aug (9th).A petition is currently being circulated in an effort to gain support from the community.We would appreciate all the help we can get thru phone calls to the town board,to the town hall, signing the petitions & mostly attending the monthly meeting to support our veterans.
Thanks
A Vet
July 31/10
Pollack Hill
I was also raised on Pollack Hill. I remember walking those 10 miles to school, uphill both ways! It was a great place to live back then (except for the neighbors who told my parents everything we kids did).
With the way things are today, I would have a problem letting my elementary student walk to school. The high school students are capable of walking to the high school instead of being bused. What with the iPods stuck in their ears to entertain them, they'd get there in no time! There weren't so many fat kids back then either. The kids nowadays would all benefit from walking. But remember, even the school bus drivers are unionized. They'd fight this with every excuse there is. And White and Tschudy would be there to help them with their excuses.
July 31/10
"City Hall Parks Here"
OUR OFFICIALS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STAND UP STRAIGHT FOR AN HONEST ANSWER>
http://centralny.ynn.com/content/top_stories/512636/-city-hall-parks-here-/
July 31/10
re...Colemans Building....
I remember the dangerous building sign being posted. I don't even think it was posted for a week. It seems it was more like about three days, the sign come down and the building was all better. As per Dr. Bateman and his medical staff. Just like they allowed them to put a bandaid on the 1850 house. That is another Pig in a Poke.
July 31/10
PBS Video recommendation
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http://video.pbs.org/video/1550499979
July 31/10
To Doc Bill
"City Hall Parks Here"
OUR OFFICIALS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STAND UP STRAIGHT FOR AN HONEST ANSWER>
http://centralny.ynn.com/content/top_stories/512636/-city-hall-parks-here-/
July 31/10
re...Colemans Building....
I remember the dangerous building sign being posted. I don't even think it was posted for a week. It seems it was more like about three days, the sign come down and the building was all better. As per Dr. Bateman and his medical staff. Just like they allowed them to put a bandaid on the 1850 house. That is another Pig in a Poke.
July 31/10
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If you are STILL against health care reform you are;
- easily duped by disinformation and fearmongering
-being paid by some lobbyist and owe your soul to them as long as you are voted back in
-are a member of the republican party and vote according to what Ru.sh Limbaugh or Karl R.ove tells you to
-are white and cannot be for ANYTHING that a black man is (even if he is right)
-are rich and just don't care
-HAVE insurance paid for you and just don't care
-HAVE never been sick and just don't care or think about it
-don't believe the mound of truth in statistics that the system is broken
-don't care that YOU pay 1000 dollars for everybody that uses emergency rooms without insurance
-don't care if people suffer with the worry of paying health bills or that they lose everything they have along with their families( inclusive of innocent children )
-don't care that 62% of personal bankruptcies are related to medical bills
.don't care that single payer is the best and most efficient system implemented in most other western
democracies
-don't care that people may d1e as a result from one or all of the above..
HOW is that American ? or even human -- ?
Health care reform PASSED and along with it comes the decimation of the party of NO in November
July 31/10
St. Louis Church
There have been posts here indicating that Randy Bateman is a devoted Catholic, passes the collection plate, attends church each weekend. Is there a connection between that and the Diocese getting away with that building's disrepair? Whether any Diocese's building is a hazard, a hole in the wall, not being used, they still pay/paid no taxes to the city of Oswego. The same with the old St. John's building. No longer being used for 'religious' purposes, why aren't these institutions paying taxes? St. Louis has a prime location. Will a combined tatoo/pawn/fast food go in there? Will Pauldine buy it and make another Commons and charge the city for letting its shoppers walk through it? Tony Leotta? That man is 30 years past retirement age. Why not hire an Engineer who is young, needs a job and has the initiative to do the job and 'earn' - what is it now? - $80,000?
I had high hopes for Randy Bateman, especially when he was the only one on the common council to vote against that outrageous $48,000 which they wanted to give to Gosek. When that money started going into his pockets, he changed his mind and it's now quite reasonable for a part/part time Mayor in this dumpy, poor city.
Gotta Luvit
July 31/10
RE: Michael Collins
3 trillion dollars added to the deficit by the Bush tax cuts? That is hysterical progressives nonsense. I have already proved over and over that tax cuts such as those enacted under John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and George Bush have added increased revenues to the treasury. These are facts, not the slight of hand arithmetic used by progressives to deceive people who don't know any better or who don't pay attention close enough to fully understand the deception.
As a reminder, the rich are very good at avoiding taxes. They have numerous avenues in which to invest their money many of which are tax free. Though these investments are available to everyone those of us in the middle do not have the "extra" funds lying around to place in these low interest, tax free opportunities. Also, when investment in money making ventures, businesses that hire workers for those of you who do not understand economics 101, is taxed to such an extent that it makes the risks less palatable the rich simply hold on to their money and wait for better times.
In short, raising taxes on the rich results in less revenue. Raising taxes on everyone reduces revenue. Reducing taxes across the board results in more revenue to the US Treasury. Yes, the rich get to keep more of their money but that is good for the rest of us because they will use that money in ways that provided jobs for all of us. This is what happened as a result of the Reagan tax cuts with revenue to the treasury increasing by nearly double and more than 20 million new jobs being created. So Michael Collins is wrong that tax cuts do not result in new jobs.
This tax the rich mentality is part of the divisive progressive plan, along with racism, to keep people fighting each other and not pay attention to what the progressives are really doing - GAINING POWER. I am not surprised that an avowed socialist and terrorist namesake such as Michael Collins supports and promotes such policies. These progressives policies are adding unsustainable amounts to the yearly deficit and to the combined national debt which will take generations to repay. But, then, that is their plan, to fundamentally transform the United States from a Republic to a socialist, communist dictatorship run by the fabulously wealthy elite progressive leaders while the rest of us are prevented from achieving the American Dream.
I already explained the hypocrisy of the progressives with regard to the unemployment extension in a previous post but another reminder is required for those of you who do not pay attention. The Republicans objected to the extension without corresponding cuts elsewhere in the bloated budget so those extensions did not add to the deficit as the progressives, Obama, had promised in their "PAYGO" pledge. Orrin Hatch was not the one who was hypocritical about increasing the deficit with the extension of the Bush tax cuts because, as I have proved again and again, such tax cuts actually increase revenue to the treasury.
It is the democrats and the progressives who are the PARTY OF NO to the poor because they want to keep people poor which is obvious if you review the past 40 years of their programs. Sure, they talk a good story about helping the poor but every program they institute fails to lift people out of poverty and are actually designed to keep them in poverty, dependent upon the progressives for those unfulfilled promises.
The Conservative, and the most compassionate, way of doing things will lift people out of poverty while increasing their self respect and invigorating their initiative to be whatever they want to be. Do things the progressive way and we all become slaves dependent upon their generosity. Do things the Conservative way and we all become independent, achieving the goals we have set for ourselves and able to pass on to our children and grandchildren the freedom that American as stood for for more than two centuries.
Doc Bill
July 31/10
RE: Sherrod and November
She can sue Breitbart but she will not get anything because he did not cause her to be fired. That came from the Obama White House as Sherrod herself said in an interview. All Breitbart did was to post a video he was given. He did not edit it in any way. All he did was provide information to the public. He did not do it with malice. If Sherrod has any case it's against Obama and her other bosses for having her fired, or forcing her to resign, without giving her any chance to defend herself.
I know you'd love for things to go the other way but wishing will not make it so. Reality is what it is and she will lose.
With regard to the post "Remember this in November" I have already disproved your claim that the Bush tax cuts increase the deficit several times. Simply repeating this progressive talking point will not make it so. Plus, there is far more to this than just the tax the rich aspect. There is also the "death tax" which will destroy many family businesses resulting in more unemployment. But then, to progressives business owners are part of the rich class and need to be punished for their oppression of the working class. That concept is so full of crap that anyone with a brain should be able to figure it out themselves. That vast majority of people in the US work for small businesses so taxing them into oblivion will not help anyone except the power hungry progressives.
And regarding ObamaCare your reporting on a biased poll does nothing but show us the desperate situation that ObamaCare is in. The vast majority of people did not want ObamaCare and they now want it repealed before it destroys the best health care on the planet.
Doc Bill
July 31/10
Global Warming Theory: False in Parts, False in Totality
You do have to hand it to the warmists for their persistence. They will never give up even if glaciers reappear in North America. Unfortunately for them the evidence is against them which is why they falsified their facts over and over again. But, they are still at it because this represents the greatest single opportunity for them, the progressives, to control everything and everybody in the world.
Read the article in the link below and learn the truth about the fallacy of global warming.
Doc Bill
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25387
July 31/10
Lambrino's Old Building-
TPTP use to own this building and people have seen him moving stuff in anf out, he must be renting from the new owners. Didn't he have problems with DEC concerning this building?
July 31/10
"re:Tony Bologna Pauldine strikes out again.
The NYS Liquor Authority closed down King Arthur’s Harbor Fest weekend."
Hard to believe he didn't have the money for the Liquor License. What does he do with his money, his prices are very high in King Arthur's for food. He had to know he would get caught.
July 31/10
RE:WOULD YOU BUY THIS CRUMBLING BUILDING?
About 7 years ago I went there for dinner, at that time people were saying that they were going to renovate the upstairs for wedding,etc. Nothing happened, it was said that it needed so much work and it was unsafe, now 7yrs. later nothing was ever done.
July 31/10
FULTON, NY – Fulton police today (July 21) announced the arrest of an alleged sex abuser.Hector Noel Ortiz Sr., 29, of 154 Cedar St., Fulton, was arrested today at the Fulton Police Department for the following offenses:· Second-degree aggravated sexual abuse – C felony· Second-degree assault – D felony· Endangering the welfare of a child – A misdemeanorThe suspect is accused of subjecting a two-year-old child to sexual contact as well as causing physical injury to that same child while at a residence in the city of Fulton on July 16. "Guess who is Hector's lawyer?---Sal Lanza, I rest my case."
July 31/10
Today's Quote July 30/10
"Ambition is the path to success. Persistence is the vehicle you arrive in
Bill Bradley
WOULD YOU BUY THIS CRUMBLING BUILDING?
IS ANYONE THAT STUPID?
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IN DECEMBER OF 2008 THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN
OF THE FORMER COLEMANS IRISH PUB
JUST AFTER IT WAS DECLARED A DANGEROUS BUILDING.
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NO WORK WHATSOEVER WAS DONE
YET WITHIN A WEEK THE SIGNS WERE GONE.
k

This is another one of the many hazardous buildings in Oswego that our mayor is ignoring.
It is being done intentionally because Bateman hopes the city will find some unsuspecting sucker to buy it. No doubt it will be another deal like Coleman got, reduced taxes and a loan from Community Development. The new owner will be allowed make minor repairs and ignore everything else so long as they make the payments on their loan from the city. When their tax deal runs out they will cut and run just like Coleman did. It would take millions to restore this refugee from the wrecking ball and at least half a million just to make it safe and secure.

TIC! TIC! TIC! WHEN WILL THIS BOMB GO OFF?
Multiple cracks undermine the structural integrity of this building. In the 60s and 70s the upper floors were covered with empty frozen fish trays to catch the water leaking through the neglected roof. The current thirty + year-old roof is a do-it-yourself cob job done by another looser mayor of Oswego, Bill Cahill and is probably the only exterior maintenance he did while he owned the building. By now it is no doubt leaking again and infiltrating the exterior walls.



ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO SOME OF US FELT THE SMALL EARTHQUAKE THAT OCCURRED.
HOW MUCH OF A TREMOR DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING THIS WALL DOWN ONTO THE LINEAR PARK?
Our City Is Broke And Mayor Bateman Is Desparate For Any Money He Can Get His Hands On
ANY BUILDING EVEN ONE LIKE THIS WOULD BRING IN MORE TAXES THAN AN EMPTY LOT SO MAYOR BATEMAN IS PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN HARMS WAY WHILE TRYING TO HIDE THE FACT THAT HE IS A TOTAL FAILURE AT BEING THE LEADER OF THIS CITY.
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Tony Bologna Pauldine strikes out again.
The NYS Liquor Authority closed down King Arthur’s Harbor Fest weekend.
Anthony, I want to massage your thighs, Pauldine got caught serving alcohol without a license and was promptly shut down just as Harbor Fest 2010 was getting underway. The self-proclaimed entremanure claimed he forgot to renew the license but the Liquor Authority would hear none of it. Sounds like an easy mistake anyone could have made? According to Authority records the license expired June 30, 2010 so Pauldine had been operating without it for over three weeks. On the Authority’s website the cost of the license is listed at $1792.00 and it can be renewed online. Unconfirmed sources say the violation was first discovered during a pre fest inspection by the OPD. However due to Pauldine’s close personal and family relationship with Mayor Bateman the police department was instructed to ignore it.
Pauldine’s retrial for misdemeanor sexual contact with a minor is scheduled for sometime in September but rumors persist claiming the District Attorney will drop the case. On the other hand a different rumor claims the FBI has been investigating previous exchange students that stayed with Pauldine as well as the Oswego exchange student program itself. Where there is smoke there is fire!
If he cannot come up with 1800 bucks it makes you wonder what other accounts he is behind in. For the last 4-5 years there have been rumors of his burrowing from Peter To pay Paul. In the coming months we may well see if there is really anything to the rumors.
July 30/10
RE:THE DRAGNET CHURCH REPORT
This dragnet made me wonder why they weren't checking out the church from above......the City of OZ and The RCC don't like to spend money unless there is a big payback, that's probably one of the reasons.
July 30/10
Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming,
one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.
"A comprehensive review of key climate indicators confirms the world is warming and the past decade was the warmest on record," the annual State of the Climate report declares.
Compiled by more than 300 scientists from 48 countries, the report said its analysis of 10 indicators that are "clearly and directly related to surface temperatures, all tell the same story: Global warming is undeniable."
Concern about rising temperatures has been growing in recent years as atmospheric scientists report rising temperatures associated with greenhouse gases released into the air by industrial and other human processes.
At the same time, some skeptics have questioned the conclusions.
The new report, the 20th in a series, focuses only on global warming and does not specify a cause.
"The evidence in this report would say unequivocally yes, there is no doubt," that the Earth is warming, said Tom Karl, the transitional director of the planned NOAA Climate Service.
The new report noted that continuing warming will threaten coastal cities, infrastructure, water supply, health and agriculture.
"At first glance, the amount of increase each decade — about a fifth of a degree Fahrenheit — may seem small," the report said.
"But," it adds, "the temperature increase of about 1 degree Fahrenheit experienced during the past 50 years has already altered the planet. Glaciers and sea ice are melting, heavy rainfall is intensifying and heat waves are becoming more common and more intense."
Last month was the warmest June on record, and this year has had the warmest average temperature for January-June since record keeping began, NOAA reported last week.
The new climate report, released by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and published as a supplement to focused on 10 indicators of a warming world, seven that are increasing and three declining.
Rising over decades are average air temperature, the ratio of water vapor to air, ocean heat content, sea surface temperature, sea level, air temperature over the ocean and air temperature over land.
Indicators that are declining are snow cover, glaciers and sea ice
July 30/10
Well even Republicans are saying what a moron Bushie was
Republicans, particularly those most closely tied to the Bush regime, actually argue the book could help the party by reminding some voters of what they liked about Bush. Still, that has not stopped some Republicans, traumatized over the last two election cycles, from fearing the worst. "Monumentally bad timing" was the reaction of one former Bush aide who learned of the book release date. Another prominent conservative compared the Bushies' public-relations savvy to LeBron James. "Selfish and stupid" was another noted right-wing columnist's reaction.
As for Democrats, it seems that the date of the memoir's release coinciding with the midterm elections should come as welcome news.
July 30/10
re: SHARING THE WEALTH
By the sound of your post, I couldn't help but to initially think that your post was simply something made-up by mocking the mentality of a fictional illeagal immigrant designed soley to stir anger among conservatives. It sounded like a typical pass along type of e-mail that would be shared on the web and sent to others as a joke. However, after seeing the direct referece to "Wayne county", I began to have my doubts, and decided that a response was in order.
To begin with, T.V. commercials and programing in general have been doing exactly as you discribed for about 40 years, so there's really nothing new going on here. And in many cases, there isn't anything wrong with it either. While some of it was initially started because of equal opportunity reasons and cries of discrimination, there's little doubt that much of it is also simply created for other leftist agenda reasons. This however, isn't what I want to post about. It's the rest of your post that disturbs me.
To begin with, the whole notion that coming to the upstate N.Y. area would be somehow beneficial in your search for employment speaks volumes in itself. It's quite clear by this line of irrational logic that you are not here to seek work, but rather to take advantage of all the things the system provides for you and your extended family as a result of being out of work. You can't find a job that you "want" or "fits your liking" and expect that others have to assist you AND your family until that day arrives. This entitlement mentaily is exactly why most people are against illegal immigration, and want you to go back to where you came from.
Second, you state that you started picking apples for a local farmer in Wayne county last year and got injured "the first day on the job". This alone indicates many potential problems and sends a red flag to a prosepective employer that would probably disqualify you from being hired, such as incompetance, liability issues, and overall safety awareness that you seem to lack.
Third, you claim to have 5 kids. This is a sign of gross irresponsibilty, as anyone with a brian should be smart enough to realize that you don't have five kids without a job to support them. By looking at the size of the rest of your extended family, it would also appear that they too are also irresponsible and perhaps unemployed, since they are apparently coming here for the same reasons as you. Incidently, there are millions of other people who leave the nest and relocate elsewhere that don't feel a need to bring their whole family (on both sides no less) in order to succeed or survive, and that's what happens to most people in life once they branch out on their own and move away for various reasons. I know of virtually nobody who makes a relocation that feels the need to have the remaining 21 members of their extended family relocate as well. What's the matter, are they all unemployed as well?
Forth, you claim that you relocated from LA, and that you have gang members in your family. You're concerned about your safety, yet make threats that you will act with "typical gang mentality" if you have problems with the locals. Maybe the locals will be justifiably concerned about their own safety, because of people in your family that have gang tatoos and act like big city punks that were more likely scared little rats back in LA. that probably got their ass's kicked regularly in the big city. Apparently, you didn't know how to deal with it back there, and like a chicken shit you headed for a small town in N.Y. to hide. And now, we're supposed to believe that you know how to deal with trouble? You're running from it, because you're just scared little rats with "the tat's" is all you are.
Finally, you claim that you're making more money on disability than you ever did picking apples and onions, and that "your poor back" will never be the same again. Your doctor told you to get a good lawyer and that they will make sure you are in perfect health before you are "forced" to work again. Ahh, there's that entitlement mentality seeping through again....that nobody should have to be forced to work. There's plently of others out there with disabilities or handicapped that work everyday. You're just a lazy ass slob from my observation of your post who has "no problemo" taking advantage of taxpayer dollars to support your "bad back". What's the matter with the rest of your extended family, do they all have bad backs too? I thought it was your shoulder that got injured, not your back. Maybe you're mostly to blame for nobody wanting to hire you, since you sound like a cronic crybaby whining in pain who cant even manage to stay on a ladder picking apples. It's probably no wonder nobody wants to hire you to do roofing, hang drywall ceilings, or similar types of work that require manual labor. However, this shouldn't disquaify you from many other jobs that don't require it. Even a good lawyer would have to agree with that, because all they do is sit on thier ass all day long making big the big bucks.
July 30/10
Re: Congressional Budget Office - Federal Debt and the Risk of a Fiscal Crisis
Doc Bill failed to mention that the Congressional Budget Office also stated that a renewal of the Bush Tax Cuts for the Wealthy will add 3 trillion dollars to the deficit.
These tax cuts have been in existence for 7-10 years and have never created any jobs. All they did was to give more money to the already wealthy.
It is hypocritical that Senator Orrin Hatch is in favor of renewing these tax cuts. Hatch had no problems voting against the Unemployment Extension Bill because he said it would add to the deficit.
The Republican Party, the party of NO to the poor & YES to the rich!!
Michael Collins.
July 30/10
Exposed: American Police Force Is A Blackwater Front Group
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=
blog.view&friendId=62961422&blogId=512507758
July 30/10
American Police Group" BlackWater Hired to Fill Montana Prison
http://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issues/57672-
american-police-group-blackwater-hired-fill.html
July 30/10
RE: Sharing the wealth
Well you seem to have hit the ball out of the park with your article. Everything was spot on and correct with what you said. Washington has turned into a soft , jelly belly world of handouts and liberalism that is bringing our strong nation down the tubes. I really think that a high percentage of people (slackers) believe it is their entitlement to welfare,,,in other words it is their job to be on welfare and that everyone who has the backbone and pride to work owe them something. I believe it is time to give the able bodied slugs a shovel in the wintertime and let them do the crosswalks and streets for the city. I believe it is time to let the inmates stay in prison and make license plates while the welfare slugs clean up all the highways . If you have 2 kids you work 40 hrs a week if you have 3 kids you just got to work 5 ten hr. days. If you have 4 or more kids then you will work 12 hr days 4 days a week . By doing this you may just push some 22 year old in great health to actually try and work a legitimate job and gain some pride and respect for him or herself.
I have always said and I will state again this city of Oswego is to small to absorb the HUD and welfare it takes in everyday. Just look at the main street in town. I remember looking at retired factory workers and Oswegonians on the corners now all you will see are baggy pants and ball shirts with welfare inside them. These people come here knowing that the money will be there and that HUD will house them period . No one comes here to be a great Oswegonian or to benefit the city , when this money runs out so will the slugs ,,,they will run to the next city or town to do the same thing they are doing here. How many houses have you driven by to see the front doors wide open and lights on all day and night? This week go to farmers market and see the brigade of baby strollers and the babies pushing them. It's easier to take a pill than it is to open your legs so why pop babies out only if you want to fit into your crowd that is not cool kids,this just doesn't make sense, in fact a lot of the grandmothers of these baby's mommies are in their 30's and still partying also , what the hell is going on.
Well enough of the same old stuff I can see that no one will try and do anything about this infection to our city. The politicians are just going to turn a bad eye to the problem . The County welfare office is to blame and so is the State and Local Govt. also to blame. People really don't care if other cities are ruined but when it's where you grew up it's another thing isn't it.
Well someday someone will get into office for the County or the City govt. and actually try and make Oswego a great place again. I have always said to bring in an independent city Manager to run city hall and just have the Mayor for photo shoots. When this is done the City Manager is not tied to corruption like the Mayor is , by that I mean when you are not from here you have no favors or ties to anyone , you clean house and manage the city. I wonder what this city will look like in 10 years God knows the Ghetto's are forming in places now and that's the truth like it or not ,,,,,Let's do something now.
Signed ,,,,,,,,EnufSaid,,,,,,,,,,,the Original
July 30/10
Old City Hall building.
Anyone ever noticed the backside of the building? Code enforcement must think it`s safe. I don`t have a camera to show a pic. Maby someone else can post it. When that goes, I wouldn`t want to be near it or in it
July 30/10
Hey doc
I hope she gets every Penny that this dirtbag has. Now lets watch you blame this on Our President you jackass
Ousted Agriculture Department employee said Thursday she will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her making racially tinged remarks last week
July 30/10
Remember this in November
Remember these two facts when you head into the voting booth in November:
1. Republicans voted against unemployment benefits in a recession they caused because of deficit concerns, but want the deficit-expanding Bush tax cuts for the richest 2 percent of Americans to continue.
2. A Kaiser poll released today found that the health care reform law Republicans want to repeal now has 50 percent support, with only 35 percent against.
July 30/10
Federal Deficit
The House of Representatives approved $33 billion for a 30,000 troop escalation in Afghanistan yesterday and in doing so took money away from other places it was desperately needed: public schools, green energy and job creation. 93 percent of Republicans think increasing the deficit is just fine when it comes to war. Republicans are clearly willing to keep fighting and funding, regardless, despite their howls about waste and big government.
Republicans also back extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and some Republicans have argued that deficits are acceptable if they fund tax cuts.
Republicans however, voted en mass against HR 4213, the Unemployment Extension Bill, saying it would increase the federal deficit. Republican senators are clearly happy to flip flop when it comes to diverting stimulus funding from job creation to tax cuts for the rich and unpopular wars.
Michael Collins.
July 30/10
HH
To the asshole who make the snide remarks about hamilton homes.....its true one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.....I pay all of my own rent, all of my own utilities, dont do drugs, dont smoke pot, volunteer for my community and worked 35 years before life left me no choice but to rent there. Perhaps your comments should be directed to the new office staff that doesnt give a shit who moves in, who lives with them once they move in, etc. And about the walls my point was that Neil Smith was once again not doing his job. Period.. When you can hear your neighbor take a shit and wipe himself thats not up to code. Just because I happen to not be middle class at this point in my life I dont deserve to live in a supposedly brand new building, built with taxpayers monies, and have to live my neighbors life. Why dont you call Jean Parker at HH with your comments sometime and let her know how you feel.....343-0871....we dont like the druggies or the live-ins, etc. either. Perhaps a comment from an outsider might be nice.
MJ
July 30/10
Top 5 Social Security myths
Conservatives love to throw misinformation around about Social Security in hopes of destroying the program and forcing America's seniors into poverty. Here are the Top 5 myths about the program:
Myth: Social Security is going broke.
Reality: There is no Social Security crisis. By 2023, Social Security will have a $4.6 trillion surplus (yes, trillion with a 'T'). It can pay out all scheduled benefits for the next quarter-century with no changes whatsoever. After 2037, it'll still be able to pay out 75% of scheduled benefits--and again, that's without any changes. The program started preparing for the Baby Boomers retirement decades ago. Anyone who insists Social Security is broke probably wants to break it themselves.
Myth: We have to raise the retirement age because people are living longer.
Reality: This is red-herring to trick you into agreeing to benefit cuts. Retirees are living about the same amount of time as they were in the 1930s. The reason average life expectancy is higher is mostly because many fewer people die as children than did 70 years ago. What's more, what gains there have been are distributed very unevenly--since 1972, life expectancy increased by 6.5 years for workers in the top half of the income brackets, but by less than 2 years for those in the bottom half. But those intent on cutting Social Security love this argument because raising the retirement age is the same as an across-the-board benefit cut.
Myth: Benefit cuts are the only way to fix Social Security.
Reality: Social Security doesn't need to be fixed. But if we want to strengthen it, here's a better way: Make the rich pay their fair share. If the very rich paid taxes on all of their income, Social Security would be sustainable for decades to come. Right now, high earners only pay Social Security taxes on the first $106,000 of their income. But conservatives insist benefit cuts are the only way because they want to protect the super-rich from paying their fair share.
Myth: The Social Security Trust Fund has been raided and is full of IOUs
Reality: Not even close to true. The Social Security Trust Fund isn't full of IOUs, it's full of U.S. Treasury Bonds. And those bonds are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States . The reason Social Security holds only treasury bonds is the same reason many Americans do: The federal government has never missed a single interest payment on its debts. President Bush wanted to put Social Security funds in the stock market--which would have been disastrous--but luckily, he failed. So the trillions of dollars in the Social Security Trust Fund, which are separate from the regular budget, are as safe as can be.
Myth: Social Security adds to the deficit
Reality: It's not just wrong -- it's impossible! By law, Social Security funds are separate from the budget, and it must pay its own way. That means that Social Security can't add one penny to the deficit.
July 30/10
QUOTE OF THE CENTURY
Some people have the vocabulary to sum things up in a way that you can understand. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.
July 30/10
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely one fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
July 30/10
“OBIE” CRITIC
You poor fool. You are so racist, you don’t even realize you are a racist. Your words: ‘BEING BLACK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, OTHER THAN HE HAS THE BLACK ATTITUDE OF ENTITELMENT” Say what? What black attitude of entitlement ? Can you possibly be stupid enough to suggest all blacks have an attitude of entitlement? Wake up and smell the coffee, Bubba. Look around you. I see an awful lot of white folks who are major lazy bloodsuckers working the system. You have to, at some point in your life, push back that white Klu Klux hood of yours and realize that color has nothing to do with folks who are taking your tax money and running with it. There are good and bad in each race, each religion, etc. To stereotype one whole race is not just laughable, but it proves you are a dolt.
And, speaking of you being a dolt -- you actually think the White House is going to take the time to disprove something that idiot Glen Beck has said? Why would they dignify him like that? To them he is like one of those little, inconsequential, pesky flies buzzing around, making all sorts of noise, and doing no good. He just fills the position of spokesman, so many of you white supremist no-brains look up to, and get your half-baked ideas from. Just your crazy sentence about Obama - -“seemingly hates this country and is hell bent on destroying OUR way of life.” And, who would the “OUR” be you are referring to, Clem? All the nice, lily white, racist, radicals in this country that listen to Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh as though they were Gods or something, because they are too stupid to see through them? You should be ashamed to open your mouth with such nonsense. Your types are the reason we end up with so many jerks in office.
July 30/10
Oswego Wal-mart store reopened after bomb threat
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf
/2010/07/oswego_wal-mart_store_reopened.html
July 30/10
RE: Illegal use of and collecting rain water. That's only because they haven't found a way to tax us on it.
That would be like taxing air. It would never stand up in court.
Penny suppers
Does anyone remember the penny suppers at St Louis Church.... Oh so long ago.....
No but I remember going to an icecream and strawberry social there in the 50s.
Are These Your Neighbors?
Oswego PD 07/29/2010
Ryan F. Brisky, 22, of 257 Glasgow St., Clyde
The subject was charged at about 9:37 p.m. July 24 with violating the open container ordinance and unlawful possession of marijuana.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly being in possession of both an open container of an alcoholic beverage while in a public place at West Cayuga and Sixth streets and also a small quantity of marijuana.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Donna M. Conway, 46, of 222 Aberdeen Terrace, Syracuse
The subject was charged at about 5:51 p.m. July 24 with disorderly conduct.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly yelling obscenities in the presence of citizens, event staff, and Oswego City Police Officers in Breitbeck Park near Lake Street.
She is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
Richard T. Kellar, 18 of 56 Junior Ave., Fulton
The subject was charged at about 2:22 a.m. July 24 with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly yelling obscenities in the presence of a large crowd at West First and Bridge streets.
When police advised the defendant that he was under arrest the defendant allegedly physically resisted police and refused to comply with police commands.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Thomas J. Quigley, 20, of 111 Brianbeth Place, Tappan, NY
The subject was charged at about 11:45 p.m. July 24 with violating the open container ordinance and possession of alcohol while less than 21 years old.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly being in possession of an open alcoholic beverage in a public space at West Cayuga and Seventh streets, while under the age of 21.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Joseph E. Tobin, 32, of 121 E. Seventh St., Oswego
The subject was charged at about 5:22 a.m. July 23 with third-degree unauthorized use of a motor vehicle, second-degree aggravated unlicensed operation and unlawful possession of marijuana.
According to the police report: The above defendant was arrested after an investigation determined that the defendant allegedly did knowingly operate a vehicle without the consent of the owner and did so while his privilege to operate a motor vehicle was suspended.
The defendant also allegedly possessed a small quantity of marijuana at the time of the arrest at East First and Utica streets.
He was arraigned and remanded to Oswego County Jail in lieu of $230 bail / $500 bond.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 12.
July 30/10
New wind turbine installed at SUNY Oswego
"WOW could some of the buildings downtown also get turbines? ( like City Hall, The old Post Office,etc,. ) Or is Oswego so backwards that it is afraid of Technology...............don't even ask Leotta..........he knows not much."
http://centralny.ynn.com/content/top_stories
/512567/new-wind-turbine-installed-at-suny-oswego/
July 30/10
Hey Ed,
I was in town today (Thursday) and driving down west 5th street at around 11:00 AM. There were an ambulance, large pumper truck and what looked like the chiefs vehicle all parked with lights going in front of a private residence. It looked like someone was working on their house and was injured, what I'm getting at is we have more calls for accidents than fire calls. Why do we need a huge pumper truck to make all these accident calls when it calls for nothing more than an ambulance and possibly a van or SUV.
We have come to a point where we need to cut back on vehicular usage instead of playing around with big man toys when it's not necessary. We are over extending our costs for oversized equipment not necessary today. Town DPW's all over have enough equipment for building roads, dig sewers, manage park maintenance and snow plowing. The problem is along with town, village and city municipalities each thinks they have to equip themselves instead of merging with one another to save tax payers.
No way! we need to save power and political jobs each town has for years been able to take care of their privileged, friends, family and sponsors. The same goes for too many town officials who don't want to lose their source of power. We need to become more responsible about cutting costs. We should look into cutting all political positions from County &Town reps, Police, fire and highway dept's. We don't need duplication of services from all directions just to maintain local powers.
Let us not forget our schools, if ever there was waste it can be found here. Each teacher has at least one teacher's aide, they work 10 months starting at over $39,000.00 a year. They have the strongest union bar none. After ten years they have tenure, when was the last time you heard of one being denied. Busing, another huge cost factor, maintenance, training, updating, along with drivers pay. The one big problem lies in the amount of buses needed. Instead of picking up students at longer intervals they are picking them up at their homes or at the corner of their street. I remember walking from Pollack hill to Oswego High. There were no buses back then unless you lived out in the country yet today we pamper these kids with busing right from your door.
July 30/10
As we Silver Surfers know, sometimes we have trouble with our computers.
I had a problem yesterday, so I called Eric, the 11 year old next door, whose bedroom looks like Mission Control and asked him to come over.
Eric clicked a couple of buttons and solved the problem.
As he was walking away, I called after him, 'So, what was wrong?
He replied, 'It was an ID ten T error.'
I didn't want to appear stupid, but nonetheless inquired,
'An, ID ten T error? What's that? In case I need to fix it again.'
Eric grinned.... 'Haven't you ever heard of an ID ten T error before?
'No,' I replied.
'Write it down,' he said, 'and I think you'll figure it out.'
So I wrote down:
ID10T
July 30/10
****** BREAAKING NEWS ******
It was reported to the LION that members of the Oswego Police Dept were called to the Oswego WalMart store on Rt 104 East around 1:00 P.M. where they asked all customers to vacate the store in an orderly fashion.
Today's Quote July 29/10
“We’re waiting for them
(owners of Oswego's crumbling buildings)
to see what happens"
Oswego Mayor Randi Bateman

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS
YOU TWO-FACED LYING SOB
What The CC Meeting Had to Say -" "AND AS WE WAIT...........
"At Monday’s Oswego City Common Council meeting, in light of Sunday’s collapse of St. Louis’ Church, Councilor Shawn Walker, R-4Th Ward, called for action on the known commercial structures in the city in obvious need of repair.“Hopefully we can learn from this and take a look at some of the other buildings that we have,” Walker said, referencing the old Chauncey McDonald residence on the southeast corner of West Fifth and Bridge streets.Mayor Randy Bateman also brought to the council’s attention the former Lambrino’s Cleaners building, on East First Street.“Presently, there are people in the process of buying and renovating those (buildings),” Bateman said. “We’re waiting for them to see what happens, and if they don’t get something done soon then the council will try to take some kind of action to make sure that (those buildings are stabilized).”"Pall Times "AND AS WE WAIT............SEVERAL YEARS NOW, SOMEONE COULD BE KILLED FROM A COLLAPSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
July 29/10
In 2006 on the front of this house just above where the section of wall fell you could look up through the eaves and see the sky.

As Third Ward Alderman I tried repeatedly to get the city to enforce the building and safety codes at this as well as other dangerous and unsafe buildings. These pictures barely touch the surface of the structural deficiencies present at this dump. The owner (below right) had his wife write a letter to the mayor complaining that they were being singled out and unfairly treated. The mayor told Code Enforcement to back off and even had a letter sent to the aldermen that said buildings that were vacant and not generating income for the owners were exempt from property maintenance codes. Eventually the chimneys were taken down and the foundation along with other severe masonry failures were band aided but that was all that was done. The city refused to condemn the building and order it torn down. Every opportunity was extended to the Tesorrieros to ignore the codes so they might sell the unsafe building to some unsuspecting buyer.
About a year ago, and just a few weeks after this disaster was sold, a large section of the front face of the building, which was undermined by a leaking roof (just as happened at St. Louis's church) came crashing down. The city quickly barricaded the site and posted it as a dangerous building. Of course the new owners now want to know how the city could let such a dangerous building be sold. With pictures of a very winnable lawsuit looming on the horizon mayor Bateman had the Community Development office working quietly behind the scenes in an effort to secure a grant of somewhere in the neighborhood of 100,000 to 200,000 dollars to restore this building that should have gone to wrecking ball years ago.
Now councilors and residents are in an uproar and mayor Bateman is still dancing around the issue claiming "there are people in the process of buying and renovating those (buildings)".
How long should we wait .... until one person is killed, two, half a dozen, a small family, a large family exactly what does it take to get you to wake up and make a f**king decision?
A REAL MAYOR, ONE WITH A SET OF BALLS, WOULD PUT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY BEFORE HIS FRIENDS AND THE PIPE DERAMS OF WOULD-BE DEVELOPERS AND ENTREMANURES

July 29/10
RE; "Good luck with your crazy campaign. Luckily for you, there are many like you in Oswego. "
The real problem is that there are far too many like you with your heads buried in the sand. Oh, and how you, pathetic that you are ran around for 8 years screaming at Bush for everything under the sun. Now 1 year into this idiots tour of Socialism he has Quadrupled the National debt. Yet you with your heads up your A$$e$ still think he's doing a great job. How damn blind are you. If I have a "Little mind" then you have none at all and you just proved it.
July 29/10
DETERIORATING STRUCTURES
Ed, I think your exactly right about about St. Louis church. It only took about 1 gallon of water from a "condensation drip" on a pipe in my celler to eventually take down a ceiling panel, lol. But seriously, almost every city has structures in unsafe conditions. This however isn't a justifiable excuse for the people in charge of enforcing codes or the property owners, as they are usually both negligent. Personally, I'm surprized (given the poor condition) that snow on the roof didn't cause this to happen sooner if it was that bad. In Oz, this should be an even higher priority than in many other areas. I think what worries me most with many of these older structures is the roof overhang which is quite massive on many of the older brick buildings built in the 1800's through about 1930. Having been in many of these older buildings at various times for different reasons, it's pretty scary the condition of some of the upper (and lower) levels of many of these buildings which are often used for storage or simply vacant. Meanwhile, a thriving business may well be operating on the ground level, such as a resturant or other retail establishment. While my personal view is that the preservation of older buildings is an asset to most cities from a historical perspective, (such as the case with the Oz Library), it seems counter-productive to keep structures that are not being kept up. While it's probably true that some people choose to ignore the hazards simply to keep their own property taxes lower, or in the case of the city, to keep property taxes as a source of revenue, it would appear that this "game" is only something that the property owners
and code inspectors have any control over, both acting on their own behalf (if not together) for their own financial gain. Once again, it's all about "the movers and shakers" and how they operate. Code enforcment is simply a smoke screen that only applies to everyone else except them.
July 29/10
THE DRAGNET CHURCH REPORT
The story you are about to hear isn't exactly true. The name's have been changed to protect the innocent, The city, OZ, N.Y. My name's Friday. I carry a badge.
It was a Sunday, 4:46pm as hot humid weather graced the local Harborfest celebration. I was working the daywatch on special assignment out of Public Safety Division on routine patrol in the OZPD helecopter, being the hell of a cop that I am. My partner was Officer Gannon and the boss was Lieutenant Louis.
4:47pm.....After making a fly-by of a few trouble spots around town, we decided to shift focus from crowd control to take some airial shots of the many neglected structures around town to submit to the Chief to pass them on to the Mayor at their next meeting. After taking some close up pictures of the structure on W. 5TH & Bridge, we decided to check out the old St. Louis church.
"Joe, have you been to church lately?"
"Well no Bill, I haven't."
"It's Sunday you know. Me and the little lady go every week. Maybe you should try it sometime."
Well Bill, maybe I should. God knows we should all say a prayer for this city by the looks of things. Look at all these drunks. It's a shame what things have come to around here. Damn it, the camera isn't working."
"Joe, now that's no need to curse. We can do a visual from here and put it in our report. Do you want me to get a bit closer to the building?"
"Go ahead Bill, I think I see something that needs a closer look. In fact, why don't you land on the roof so we can get out and get a real good look."
"I don't know Joe, do you think that's really a good idea?"
"Well Bill, that's what Cordell Walker would do. He's a Texas Ranger, and my professional idol. Besides, maybe the little kids would like to see the chopper up close."
"Well Joe, we know they like the new big shinny red fire truck. Maybe we can out do them firebuggers this year and show them what the OZPD in their arsenal of toys. This sure is a sweet chopper."
"Okay Bill, set her down....just be careful not to hit the steeple or land in that great big puddle of water on the roof. I don't want to get my feet wet."
"Here we go Joe, just like at the emergency landing pad at Upstate Medical Center. I'm sure it will be fine."
"Okay Bill, I'll go check it out, keep it running till I get back....."
"JOE! IT'S STARTING TO GIVE WAY! IT WON'T HOLD THE CHOPPER! GET BACK IN HERE! HURRY! NOW! OMG!"
"BILL! GET US OUT OF HERE, FAST! IT'S FALLING APART!"
5:02PM...."Joe, what are we going to do? How are we going to explain this to the Chief and the mayor?"
"Don't worry Bill, I'll think of something. We acted in the line of duty, and the chopper didn't get damaged."
"The chopper didn't get damaged? WHAT ABOUT THE DAMN CHURCH!"
"Bill, now that's no reason to curse. Maybe you should try going to church more often. I hear St. Mary's has a pancake breakfast from time to time. Just keep thinking about those hotcakes stacked high on a platter after mass."
"Joe, all I can think about right now is the hot water we're going to be in once the Chief finds out, and that stack of bricks down below."
"Well Bill, as they say, "what goes up must come down".
"That's what I'm afraid of Joe....we went up, and now were going to get demoted to walking the beat down on Water street."
"Well Bill, I think the people of Oz would like that."
"Maybe so Joe, but I don't think they're going to be happy about their church falling down."
"Probably not Bill, but it was probably going to happen sooner or later anyhow."
"You sure seem rather calm about the whole thing Joe."
"Well Bill, there's a damn good reason for that."
"Really? And just what might that be?"
"You were the flying the chopper Bill, not me."
July 29/10
Obie
Obie has his shaded past also. You kool aid drinkers forget he admitted cocaine use as a kid and various other "in the hood" activities.
He is cleaning up nothing and is making us a laughing stock throuhout the world. We are hemorrhaging allies and backersd. This guy could alienate the Pope for God's sake.
If Beck is lying, then I am amazed no one in the Obie world has called him on it. Beck has offered to have any and all of his claims questioned and proved wrong. The socialists in office can't do it.
Do I hate him because he is black or Democrat? Hmm.....well he is only black when it suits him. As far as being Democrat, even they are getting sick of his BS. I guess maybe, unlike you socialist/Democrats, I just don't like the guy because he seemingly hates this Country and is Hell bent on destroying our way of life. Being black doesn't have a thing to do with it, other than he has got the tropical black attitude of entitlement
July 29/10
re POSTER WITH THE "TAKE UP ARMS" WHITES ONLY" TAKE ON GLEN BECK
Perhaps you should actually listen to or watch Glen Beck before you comment on him .
If you are the deceitful twerp you appear to be , you likely won't .
July 29/10
SMART POWER
What kind of idiot would attend an historic Boy Scout Jamboree ; when he could appear at political fund raisers , and sit with the girls on "The View" ?
B. Obama
July 29/10
sharing the wealth
In case you haven't noticed just how well we have begun sharing the wealth. NOW! NOT! trying to sound racist but have you noticed just how many African Americans are now doing commercials or at least in them. Have you also noticed just how often you've seen ads with mixed marriages and even single black men kissing white women (gum ad). Its about time too.
You can't say the advertising media isn't doing their best to open up bi racial programming. Obama and company cannot say that homo sexual's and Black America aren't getting the attention to open all the doors once not available to them. If you are an atheist you too will have all the hoopla you need to change religion and its practice and beliefs so as not to ruffle their feathers. However if you are a practicing Catholic or Christian just take a back seat as you have had it your way far too long. We need to share the wealth better than years past.
I can't find a job that I want or think fits my liking so someone has to assist me and my family until that day comes. I started picking apples for a local farmer in Wayne county last year, however I fell the first day and injured my shoulder. I am on disability at present but my wife who just had our 5th child is unable to work so she gets government subsidy and my kids also are on welfare. I was told by catholic charities that they can't send me back as my last child was born here and so now we can't be separated. My father and mother are also coming with us and they are bringing my 4 brothers and 3 sisters along with my wife's parents and her 6 sisters (2 are pregnant) and 4 brothers. Of course we all can't fit into the same house so catholic charities is trying to find enough housing right here in this nice town.
We lived in LA California for two years but the gangs were too bad and we wanted our kids to get out of these gangs along with mine and my wife's brothers. So by moving here it seems safer but if we get any problems from our neighbors we know how to deal with it, believe me. I am making more money on disability than I ever made picking apples and onions and it looks like my back will never be the same again. The doctor said to get a good lawyer and they will make sure I am in perfect health before I am forced to work again. America is a great country and you people should be proud of it and stop picking on the poor who don't stand a chance at getting good work. We want the best for our people and if picking apples and onions can get us across the border then we know how to make it worth. We have all the help we need, Catholic charities, SS disability, unemployment, and when we cross over we get two cards to make out the first one is for our green card and the second one is to sign up as democrat card carrier.
I want to thank all you who have worked so hard to make all these programs available. Washington is the best bank we can ask for.
Thank you, Thank you, thank you,
Cary n milode
July 29/10

Re - Neil Smith, unsafe buildings
Here is a building that is in a very serious weak condition and: "Could!" I repeat: "Could collapse." It's the "The Clubhouse Tavern." If you go and look at the "Clubhouse Tavern" building you see cracks in the walls, up on the second floor above one of the upper windows there is a huge gaping hole. This has exposed the interior wall to the elements like rain which in turn softens the bricks. And at street level there is still a enormous opening in the wall from were a pick-truck hit a few weeks ago. Here is another situation that is going on in that building. Attached to the Clubhouse Tavern, you have this Spencer's Alley an outdoor bar. This use to be a store but McGrath bought it tore it down and put in another bar. McGrath didn't take into consideration that by exposing those interior brick walls to the elements. McGrath actions deteriorated those bricks, (those bricks were made for use inside buildings, and not for external use.) Then you add bands playing loud music inside that confined area of Spencer's Alley which is setting up sympathetic vibration's with those walls. (In other words, the sound from the music is shaking the bricks loose from the walls. You can see the cracks forming in the walls at Spencer's Alley.) So its only a matter of time before these walls give out and people injured or killed. So for everyone safety sake, spread the word! Stay away from the Clubhouse Tavern, and, Spencer's Alley.
July 29/10
HH Complainer
It's very difficult to sympathize with you Hamilton Homers. Why are you allowed to live there? Are you mentally or physically disabled, therefore, unable to have ever worked or cannot do so now? If so, you do have my sympathy.
Why are there people there who smoke, drink, do drugs and lay around all day but go out all night to party some more? They have to be pretty healthy to keep a lifestyle like that. Tell me why they are allowed to live there. What are the requirements to have the taxpayers support that lifestyle.
If you aren't mentally or physically handicapped, I have a few questions for you. How much do you contribute to this subsidized housing which is not up to your standards? Do you people over there have free air conditioning during these summer months? Do you have free heat during our winter months? I don't have air conditioning (I use fans and have to pay higher electrical charges).
Your walls are too thin? There must be something you're able to do to save money and able yourself to move out.
Unless you're walking to the library every day to use the computers (you admit you have written here several times), you have a computer in your HH apartment and seem to be literate and have fingers which work. Why not use them to transcribe medical info. for the hospital or a doctor? McD's and other fast food places are always looking for help. More than likely, the pay won't meet your high standards.
July 29/10
Utah news reports that collecting or using rainwater is illegal
And I thought Oswego had it bad.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/114/714/Utah_news_
reports_that_collecting_or_using_rainwater_is_illegal.
html
July 29/10
An accident waiting to happen
The collapse of the Catholic church at East 4th and Bridge Sts. should be the last wake-up call our city officials, especially zoning, need. The abandoned property on the southeast corner of West 5th and Bridge is not only an eyesore, but an accident waiting to happen. Take a few minutes and leave your air conditioned offices and do the job you're paid to do. TAKE ACTION NOW - BEFORE SOMEONE GETS KILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 29/10
END THE MESS
Remember, in November vote for BILL SHARKEY. Donate your tax dollars to the SHARKEY CLEAN UP SERVICE, operated by BILL SHARKEY. Give a damn, and vote, before the situation in this city gets even worse.
July 29/10
RE: Beck and Palin
Neither Glenn Beck not Sarah Palin have advocated armed rebellion against the US. This is just another straw man argument that progressives through our to avoid dealing with the facts of the issues. Besides, returning to our constitutional roots has nothing to do with race. and, on top of that, I have already proved that is was and is the democrats, liberals and progressives who are the true racists. So, throwing out the old progressive talking point, bumper sticker line about Republicans and Conservatives wanting the country to be "whites only" is nothing more than projecting your own prejudices upon others.
Progressives just make up the rules as they go along which is not only unconstitutional by simply wrong. there can be no order if one does not know the rules in advance and especially if the rules keep changing. Look at the irresponsible ruling by the judge in the Arizona case. According to her Arizona cannot enforce the law because the federal government cannot afford to enforce the law. It'll put too much stress on them. I guess she doesn't know that the federal government is required to enforce the laws and doesn't have any choice in the matter. Well, this case isn't over by a long shot. though the progressives won this round there are many more to come. At this point it is the country that is losing.
I suppose too much money is being spent on bowling and other entertainment as another individual posted. We can also add to that the porn that is being viewed on government computers while people are supposed to be working.
Tomorrow Arizona becomes the third state to allow citizens to carry a concealed weapon without having a license to do so. Vermont has always allowed this and Alaska became number two several years ago. As usual the progressive gun haters are making all kinds of loony predictions about the devastation that will occur just as they did some years ago when Florida enacted "shall issue" licenses. The progressives said there would be shoot out in the streets like Dodge City. Unfortunately for the progressives the real Dodge City was never like the "Dodge City" they envision from the movies so their predictions were absolutely wrong. Crime in Florida went down significantly after the enactment of that legislation.
Progressive not only make things up, the distort facts and lie about almost everything. This is especially true when it comes to our right to keep and bear arms. Read the article in the link below and learn the truth about progressive lies about this issue.
Doc Bill
http://biggovernment.com/jlott/2010/07/25/gun-
control-advocates-make-up-facts-about-concealed-handgun-laws/
July 29/10
Congressional Budget Office - Federal Debt and the Risk of a Fiscal Crisis
the CBO is warning us that Obama's spending will result in economic disaster. read the article in the link below and learn the truth about Obama's destruction of our economy.
Doc Bill
http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=11659
July 29/10
RE:"Smith noted that his office had not received any complaints or notices from neighbors about issues with the building,"
It is not reported whether he talked to Jesus on the matter.
jc
*He, Neil Smith...............probably to busy to read the complaints or notices as he sits on his ASS most of the time looking out the window waiting for the day to be over, forgetting about reading.
July 29/10
John Kerry On Yacht-Taxes Issue: 'Nothing More To Say'
Progressives talk big about paying taxes. That dummy Joe Biden said that paying taxes is patriotic so many of those in the Obama regime are not patriotic because they didn't pay taxes until they were caught, particularly Geitner. Now another big progressives tries to cheat his state out of $500,000.00 in taxes on his luxury yacht.
Oh sure, he'll pay up now that he's been caught but he tried to get away without paying by docking his yacht in another state. As far as the progressives are concerned there are two sets of rules, one for them and the other for the rest of us. They deserve all the special treatment because they care so much.
Read the article in the link below and learn the truth about the arrogance of John Kerry and by extension the rest of the progressives running the government.
Doc Bill
http://wbztv.com/local/john.kerry.yacht.2.1825558.html
July 29/10
Today's Quote July 28/10
“If you don’t go looking for problems you will not find any”
Randi (no nuts ) Bateman
St Louis Church Collapse
Several posts raise the issue about the timing of the church collapse during Harborfest; no one was injured. Turn the clock back 20 days when the street in front of the church was lined with our own precious citizens who came out to watch the annual 4th of July parade. I bet the outcome would have been quite different. Neal should be ashamed of his lack of concern regarding the condition of this building prior to its collapse. How many other buildings are there in our city that are in the same condition? Neal should be fired!
July 28/10
The city is littered with buildings like that and Bateman just pretends he does not see them.
If the gutter/valley/drain system was plugged and holding water that would be a whole nother ball game. Guessing that the roof section was about 80 ft. long and allowing for the accumulation of one cubic foot of water per liner foot of roof, that would increase the roof load by roughly 5,000 lbs. One roof leaking and neglected for 10 years + 5,000 pounds of water = implosion.
Good idea
Years ago that is the way it was. Taxpayers/land owners were the only ones that could vote on the spendingof tax dollars, ie; school budget.
Unfortunately that was too hard on the goofy ideas of the school board and others, so they let the trash in.
July 28/10
building inspector?
Ed…if a tornado were to sweep through downtown Oswego causing mass destruction and despair, where would Mayor Bateman send the bill? I’m not a major proponent for the Roman Catholic Diocese, but I’m not sure it should go on their tab either. I understand that the cops had to get out of their cars, the firefighters had to spray water around, and the DPW had to clean the streets up….but I’m thinkin’….isn’t that what WE pay them to do? If anyone should get a “bill”, maybe it should be Neal Smith. I also don’t understand the “Chase” trucking deal. Was he spraying water or driving one of his trucks? One more thing that bemuses me….the emergency vehicle “joy-ride” that occurred this past weekend. I believe, as advised by Homeland Security since 9/11, it could be a “very bad thing” to leave the keys in any unattended emergency vehicle. That just might fall under the “common sense” category….which explains much around here.
from just another ignorant citizen
July 28/10
Pretty much the entire police department works right through Harbor Mess. On the last day, Sunday, they are down to a skeleton crew by second shift. As I recall Randi has that trimmed to four men on patrol and one in the station. With that incident you would have needed double that and probably more. I got to East Park probably within 15 – 20 mins and it was like a Chinese fire drill. The fire department is the same old story. Every time one of them goes to the john they call in one guy to take his place and another to wipe his a$$. Yes that is what we pay the DPW for but not on Sundays. Chase had at least one tractor and lowboy as well as a pickup. I could not see any names on the track-hoe or skid-steer but was told they were Chase’s too. Mr. Chase and the mayor seem to have gotten very cozy over the last year. Leaving the vehicles running and unattended is standard practice for the OFD whether they are in service or out shopping.
Public Education was a good part of what made America Great
Not Charter Schools:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/27/888021/-If-you-care-about-public
-schools,-does-this-concern-you
July 28/10
the enforcer
Feb 11 2006:
the city hall buzz-word of complaint generated law enforcement is unadulterated bullsh!t used to cover ignorance, incompetence, negligence or plain old sloth.
Jul 26 2010
"Smith noted that his office had not received any complaints or notices from neighbors about issues with the building,"
It is not reported whether he talked to Jesus on the matter.
jc
July 28/10
St. Louis Church
Neil Smith could not see anything wrong with the church because his rearview mirror was in the way.
July 28/10
State mandate: Clearwater's lifeguard station needs to be handicapped-accessible - St. Petersburg Times
This is beautiful!
http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/state-
mandate-clearwaters-lifeguard-station-needs-to-be/1110467
July 28/10
Justice Dept. parties with tax dollars — arcade games, bowling, and skateboarding! | Washington Examiner
Here's one for'ya Doc.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/justice-dept-parties-with-tax-dollars--arcade-games-bowling-and-skateboarding-99250529.html
July 28/10
Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin and others who call for Americans to take up arms to "restore America" to its rightful "whites only"place in the world are sewing the seeds of a domestic rebellion. One can hope that these threats do not rise to more than mere rhetoric, but past history shows that they often lead to violence and death
July 28/10
White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi
Obama lied when he told us that he opposed the release of this terrorist while in secret he did not object to this travesty of justice. In Obama's mind the victims of the Lockerbie bomber were dead and nothing could bring them back so he opens a new chapter in his attempt to gain the friendship of those who wish to destroy us.
Read the article in the link below and learn the truth about Obama's continued falsification of the facts. Remember - LIBERALS LIE!
Doc Bill
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/white-
house-backed-release-of-lockerbie-bomber-abdel-
baset-al-megrahi/story-e6frg6so-1225896741041
July 28/10
Oh Swell! - Shirley Sherrod’s Husband Is Also A Racis
Remember, FOX NEWS did not report on the Sherrod situation until after she was forced to resign by the Obama White House. That's what news reporting is all about. Now, in a effort to cover their own screw ups the progressives are trying to blame Conservatives for this situation which is entirely in their own ballpark. If anyone was set up it was Andrew Breitbart who was given a partial, edited video of Sherrod's speech. Who gave it to him? Who knows. It probably was the one who videoed her at the NAACP conference. The NAACP must have had the entire speech on file and should have know of the context the progressives cried about later. The Obama White House surely has ways of communicating with the NAACP so they should have investigated the whole thing. But, just like with his buddy from Harvard the obamatons went off "half cocked" as we used to say.
Now we find out that Sherrod's husband also make racist speeches like this one the past January. Though some might claim that the Sherrods do not have a racist hair on their heads the evidence appears to be pointing in another direction.
Watch the short video in the link below and decide for yourself if Sherrod's husband is a racist.
Doc Bill
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38254
July 28/10
HARBORFEST FADING OUT?
Seriously - - how is Harborfest going to be able to continue? I mean, they are losing the Butler boys, who are invaluable in setting up the tents, etc. in preparation for the festival, and now they will be losing all that state aid, so there goes all the overtime for the cops, firemen, etc. And, if you noticed this year in the brochure, there was only half a page of donors, whereas at its highest, there were at least three pages full. Add to that, the declining number of volunteers and the entertainers, who get farther down the popularity and recognition scale each year, what does that all add up to? Unless a real firecracker of energy and enthusiasm like Charlotte Sullivan used to be, comes along to whip everything into shape, the festival is on its way out. I have a feeling for some, this will be a good thing, but for others it will be a sad day, as many families use the festival days as family reunion times. Personally, I enjoyed it the first few years of its inception when it wasn’t quite so wild - - not so much later on. But once that genie had been let out of the bottle, it is almost impossible to get it back in! What’s the answer?
July 28/10
OBIE JOBAMA??
My, aren’t you clever to call our president Obama that cutesy name. And, what a small mind you must have to call him an “imbecile,” Do you even know what that name means? I hardly think a man of his intelligence and educational background and spotless record would be classified as an imbecile. If that were true, what in heaven’s name would you call Bush? LOL
I’m surprised you haven’t blamed the recent heat wave on President Obama, as you keep trying to blame him for everything else. You just hate to admit he is slowly, but surely, cleaning up the Bush mess and returning our country to a position of respect in the world’s eye. Whereas you could always go back into Bush’s background to find examples of his immature and disgraceful drunken behavior that wasn’t covered up by his father’s political toadies, that is, you will be hard pressed to find anything even remotely like that in Obama’s background. He has always been a good, decent, hard working, civic minded man, who was always a model, son, grandson, father, husband, and public servant. He didn’t have a “Puppet Master” like Cheney riding herd over him like Bush did. That kills you, doesn’t it? Your hate of the man is so sick that you are constantly trying to find things to pin on him. Is it because he is black? Or, just because he is a Democrat, or most likely both. Keep trying though. Mostly, the only ones you manage to convince are the stupids in this world, who never read, or look beyond the raves and rants from the insane types like Rush Limbaugh, or that nut case, Glen Beck. Good luck with your crazy campaign. Luckily for you, there are many like you in Oswego.
July 28/10
Neil Smith
I have written this site several times in regards to neil smith. HE IS NOT DOING HIS JOB!!!!!!!!! He supposedly inspected the walls at the new hamilton homes apartments and said they were up to code; i asked for proof he couldnt provide it...some one should call him on the carpet and fire his sorry ass.....the next building to go will be teserioros place on w. 5th and bridge its just waiting to happen.....in hamilton homes you can hear everything going on in your neighbors apartments; even the older ones were built better but point being is that i do not believe that he even inspected to see if they were up to code.
July 28/10
From the archives: Frustration mounts as Oswego's St. Louis Church remains empty, deteriorating
Good article from a few years ago.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010
/07/frustration_mounts_as_oswegos.html
July 28/10
Are These Your Neighbors?
Oswego PD 07/27/2010
Justin E Bailey, 27, of 5833 Ladd Road, Brewerton
The subject was charged at about 3:12 a.m. July 25 with public defecation and disorderly conduct.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after an investigation revealed that the defendant allegedly defecated in the yard of 148 W. Schuyler St.
Furthermore, as police were investigating the defecation, the defendant allegedly yelled obscenities in the presence of civilians at 148 W. Schuyler St.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Judith R Balon, 33, of 3966 State Route 69, Mexico
The subject was charged at about 9:44 p.m. July 23 with disorderly conduct.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly refusing to comply with the lawful order of the police to disperse following a domestic incident in West Linear Park.
She is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
Jumel Cuevas, 18, of 232 Metropolitan Ave., Apt. 1C, Brooklyn
The subject was charged at about 1:54 a.m. July 23 with disorderly conduct and possession of another’s license.
According to the police report: The above defendant was arrested after police observed the defendant allegedly engaging in violent and threatening behavior toward an unidentified male by pushing said male and making a motion as to punch the male at West Second and Bridge streets.
A search of the defendant incident to the arrest allegedly yielded another person’s license.
He was released on $100 bail.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 19.
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Jeffrey M. Cumpston, 20, of 310 Colorado Drive, Webster
The subject was charged at about 9:09 p.m. July 23 with violating the open container ordinance, possession of alcohol while less than 21 years old and resisting arrest.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after police observed the defendant to allegedly be in possession of an open alcoholic beverage while under the age of 21 at Lake and West Fourth streets.
When police advised the defendant that he was under arrest the defendant did run from police and failed to comply with police commands.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Judith A. Furnari, 36, of 245 E. Eighth St., Oswego
The subject was charged at about 6:20 a.m. July 24 with second-degree harassment.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after she allegedly pushed a male, causing the male to fall off a side porch to the above residence, during a domestic incident.
She is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Randall L. Gates, 33, of PO Box 2082, Liverpool
The subject was charged at about 1 a.m. July 25 with disorderly conduct.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly yelling obscenities in the presence of a large crowd at Market and West First streets.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Timothy C. Hayden, 19, of 3299 Greenleaf Drive, Phoenix
The subject was charged at about 10:40 p.m. July 24 with violating the open container ordinance and possession of alcohol while less than 21 years old.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly being in possession of an open container of an alcoholic beverage while being under the age of 21 at West Seneca and Fourth streets.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Brian S. Lejuez, 20, of 18 Satinwood Road, Bayville, NY
The subject was charged at about 9:08 p.m. July 23 with violating the open container ordinance and possession of alcohol while less than 21 years old.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after allegedly being in possession of an open container of an alcoholic beverage while being under the age of 21 at Lake and West Fourth streets.
He is to appear in court on Aug 24.
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Branden W. Matott, 24, of 74 E. Oneida St., Oswego
The subject was charged at about 12:32 a.m. July 25 with third-degree assault.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after an investigation revealed that the defendant allegedly did intentionally strike a man in the face with a closed fist at Market and West First streets on July 18, causing the man injury and severe pain.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 12.
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A 17-year-old Oswego boy was charged at about 3:06 a.m. July 5 with third-degree assault.
According to the police report: The defendant was ticketed after an investigation revealed that the defendant allegedly threw eggs at a woman at West Cayuga and First streets, causing both physical injury and substantial pain to her eye area.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 12.
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Amy M. Place, 24, of 322 Thompson Road, Apt. H5, Oswego
The subject was charged at about 8:02 a.m. July 22.
According to the police report: The above defendant was arrested on an active arrant issued by Oswego City Court for an original charge of second-degree harassment from May.
She was released on $250 bail.
She is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Vell K. Smithers, 36, of 2 Dorcas St., Oswego
The subject was charged at about 8:30 a.m. July 17 with false personation.
According to the police report: The above defendant was arrested after allegedly knowingly misrepresenting his actual name to a police officer, during a vehicle and traffic stop at the Sunoco Gas Station, 299 W. First St., with intent to prevent such police officer from ascertaining such information.
He was remanded to Oswego County Jail.
He is to appear in court at a later date.
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Rickie M. Spicer, 28, of 31 Phillip Road, Oswego
The subject was charged at about 1:55 p.m. July 25 with unlawful possession of marijuana.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after an investigation revealed that the defendant was allegedly in possession of a small quantity of marijuana at East 10th ½ Street.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Daniel T. Tyo, 18, of 315 E. Second St., Oswego
The subject was charged at about 12:13 a.m. July 24 with disorderly conduct.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after police observed the defendant allegedly engage in violent behavior by fighting with an unknown man in the presence of a large group of people at Wright’s Landing.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
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Jeremy R. Ware, 25, of 98 Eisenhower Ave., Apt. 2, Oswego
The subject was charged at about 11:21 p.m. July 23 with disorderly conduct and unlawful possession of marijuana.
According to the police report: The above defendant was ticketed after police observed the defendant allegedly engaging in violent behavior by attempting to solicit a fight with an unknown man in the presence of a large group of people at West Eighth and Bronson streets.
A search of the defendant subsequent to the arrest allegedly yielded a small quantity of marijuana.
He is to appear in court on Aug. 26.
July 28/10
5 Year Old Guitarist
http://www.tvkim.com/watch/326/kims-picks-north-korean-girl-guitarist
July 28/10
California Mayor Under Probe Apologizes for City's `Indefensible' Salaries
Population about 38,000,read what the people were making!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-27/california-
mayor-under-probe-apologizes-for-city-s-indefensible-
salaries.html
July 28/10
Philosophy Lesson
Keep this philosophy in mind the next time you hear, or are about to repeat
a rumor.
In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates was widely lauded for his wisdom.
One day the great philosopher came upon an acquaintance, who ran up to him
excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about one of
your students...?"
"Wait a moment," Socrates replied. "Before you tell me, I'd like you to pass
a little test. It's called the Test of Three."
"Test of Three?"
"That's correct," Socrates continued. "Before you talk to me about my
student let's take a moment to test what you're going to say. The first test
is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me
is true?"
"No," the man replied, "actually I just heard about it."
"All right," said Socrates. "So you don't really know if it's true or not.
Now let's try the second test, the test of Goodness. Is what you are about
to tell me about my student something good?"
"No, on the contrary..."
"So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me something bad about him even
though you're not certain it's true?"
The man shrugged, a little embarrassed.
Socrates continued, "You may still pass though because there is a third
test - the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about my
student going to be useful to me?"
"No, not really..."
"Well," concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell me is neither True nor
Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me at all?"
The man was defeated and ashamed and said no more.
This is the reason Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high
esteem.
It also explains why Socrates never found out that Plato was banging his
wife.
July 28/10
Jeffrey Epstein Billionaire Pedophile Jeffrey Edward Epstein is an American financier and philanthropist. He is also a pedophile, who was seeking out very young girls. http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Jeffrey+Epstein
July 28/10
Little John the Baptist
Matt..18:4-5
"Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
And who ever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. "
Johnny's Mother looked out the window and noticed him "playing church" with their cat.
He had the cat sitting quietly and he was preaching to it. She smiled and went about her work. A while later she heard loud meowing and hissing and ran back To the open window to see Johnny baptizing the cat in a tub of water.
She called out, "Johnny, stop that! The cat is afraid of water!"
Johnny looked up at her and said, "He should have thought about that before he joined my church."
July 28/10
OK, I did my part. Now You FIRE this around the world to everybody you know.
GRRRRRRRRRR.....!
I'm MAD AND YOU WILL BE TOO!
Your U.S. House & Senate have voted themselves raises at $4,700 in the House
and $5,300 in the Senate.
1. They voted to not give you a Social Security cost of living raise in 2010 and 2011
2. Your Medicare premiums will go up $285.60 for the 2-years and you will not get the 3% COLA: $660/yr. Your total 2-yr loss and cost is -$1,600 each or -$3,200 for husband and wife
3. Over 2-yrs The House & Senate each get $10,000 raises
4. Do you feel
SCREWED?
5. WILL your cost of drugs - doctor fees - local taxes - food, etc., increase? You better believe they will!
WILL THEIRS? NO WAY .. They have a raise and better benefits. Why care about you? You never did anything about it in the past.
You're obviously too stupid or don't care. No offense; just making a point!
6. Do you really think that Nancy, Harry, Chris, Charlie, Barnie, et al, care about you?
SEND THE MESSAGE-- You're FIRED.
IN 2010 YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GET RID OF THE SITTING CONGRESS, THAT IS 1/3 OF THE SENATE,
AND 100% OF THE HOUSE.
MAKE SURE YOU'RE STILL MAD IN NOVEMBER 2010 AND TELL THEIR REPLACEMENTS NOT TO SCREW UP.
July 28/10
Today's Quote July 27/10
"All the things one has forgotten scream for help in dreams."
Elias Canetti
St. Louis' French Church
“Dissension caused by the increased immigration of French Canadians and the expansion of the German and English speaking population following the Civil War led to the formation in 1863 of St. Peter's German Parish, in 1869 of St. John the Evangelist Church on Erie Street and in 1871 St. Louis' French Church.
Previous to this, two separate services were held on Sundays at St. Mary's, one in English and one in French. The Trustees of St. Mary's Church approved the purchase of Mead's Hall on the corner of East Fourth and Bridge at a cost of $7,000.00 so that the French speaking people could have their own church. The Trustees of St. Mary's also donated $500.00 to renovate it as a church. With the departure of the French to St. Louis' Church, St. Mary's was now an all English speaking, mainly Irish, congregation. The Rev. M. J. Fournier succeeded Rev. Louis Griffa as pastor of St. Mary's in 1885. Father Fournier thus became the fifth pastor of St. Mary's Church. During his administration the steeple, a victim of years of Oswego weather, was taken down. The church was also renovated within and electric lights, a rarity in those times, were installed. “
http://www.stmarysoswego.org/history/history1.html
July 27/10
Other versions of this story tell of St. Mary's being the "French" church and the influx of Irish immigrants which soon outnumbered the French. Feeling that their church was being taken over by the newcomers the French left to start a new French church and school that was known as St. Louis's. I come from both French and Irish ancestors and that is basically the story I always heard and at the time I was told the French side was still unhappy.
where is our code enforcer?
What is Neal Smiths' job? Isn't this something that would have fallen under his job title? Run around sending letters for garbage complaints?
July 27/10
Re: Expert witness
Carrie Fellows is called as an expert witness?! She hasn't even practiced nursing in YEARS! Not onlt that but when whe was in her career, who do you think she worked with...none other than Alan Jones' mother! Is that a conflict of interest or what!
I bet dollars to donuts that she heard all the gorey details of the Erin Maxwell tragedy from her son-in-law, Jason Barnhart and that is why she and her employer consider her an "expert witness". Shame on them for trying to screw the system again!
Kutie Pie
July 27/10
Time To Get Rid Of This Crappy Fest
I wonder how Harborfest would fare if put to a referendum in which only
property owners could vote. Or how school board elections would turn out if
only property owners and no district employees could vote in it.
July 27/10
CREDIT AND BLAME , WHERE DUE
Congress controls the purse strings .
Republicans controlled Congress during President Clinton's wildly successful , high flying , second term !
A Democrat controlled Congress has presided over our present malaise since 2006 !
This is not to say that Progressive or Moderate Republicans can't screw things up just as badly as Progressive or Moderate Democrats , but , " lets keep it real " ; as the kids say .
SOS
July 27/10
TO RUSTY
Yes, you are certainly right -- Ed would make a great mayor, and he would be the type to clean up this city and clamp down on the ever-increasing slumlords who have taken it over and are in the midst of destroying it. BUT, he won’t run. I can almost guarantee it. First, he has bitter memories of his ward letting him down by not re-electing him, after he worked his tail off during his term of office. He faced down so many of those scumbags and set strict standards for the buildings and for following the zoning laws. That made those slum kings upset that their little filthy kingdoms were being upset, so they piled money into a campaign to get rid of him. Even then though, their efforts could have been defeated had the voters come out in droves to show their support, but, did they? No, they sat home, as usual, and the race was lost, and once again, the ward, and also the city continued its descent.
And, as we have all learned, no matter who you are, or what you stand for, in the end, it is the candidate with the most money who wins the race. Unless everyone is willing to come forward and put their money where their mouth is, and support an honest man like Ed, or someone like him, the race will always be lost to the jerks who have the most to lose if this city is ever put back on track again --- the slumlords. We will have to raise a bundle of bucks to fight these bloodsuckers. Are you all willing to do that? No, I didn’t think so. So, you will get the local government you are willing to shell out for. We are doomed.
July 27/10
pics of church take down
Ed, Just wondering what is meant by Oswego Firefighters company?
July 27/10
Chase enterprises is owned by firefighter (hero) Alan Chase.
How does he manage this and the firefighter’s job all at once?
He micromanages his enterprises from the firehouse with his cellphone.
He is also operating two drunk busses when the college is in cession.
When I was alderman he tried to solicit snowplowing business from the city. He dosen’t have any problem taking business away from the DPW through outsourcing but try to privatize the ambulance service and he will go into a hero fit like all of his bloodsucking buddies.
http://www.chaseenterprisescny.com/
What if the Church Fell During the Children's Parade?
The Church was just recently inspected....by who? People who are trust worthy, educated to do those inspections? Or just people who were chosen to do it by the City or the RC Diocese? People who have driven by it in the last few years have all remarked how bad it looked......why 'couldn't' the so called professionals now and when they went through it in 2007 condemn the old building?Get rid of Mary Vanouse and her little pals who have set this City back about 30 years.
July 27/10
Church
So sad indeed on a personal note , the loss of St Louis Church..My Great Grandparents were a part of its beginning and had their names on a window there....
Diocese didn't know of any structural problems at Oswego church
'Oswego, NY -- Officials with the Roman Catholic Diocese of Syracuse say they had no idea there were structural problems at St. Louis Roman Catholic Church in Oswego.'
Mrs. Cumming is known for having selective amnesia . They were checking those churches out once a year?? What are they afraid of ? Having to spend some money?? Mrs. Cummings needs to be a little more honest.
Neal Smith and his commrades don't always do their jobs correctly, it is so apparent, look around town.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/
diocese_didnt_know_of_any_stru.html
July 27/10
Bats
This is very timely: the latest newsletter from The Texas Gardener' Seeds said: Put up a bat house to encourage the presence of these shy animals. Bats consume 3 , 000 or more mosquitoes and other insects nightly , and bats are less likely to be rabid than dogs are. Need another reason? Bats are responsible for up to 95 percent of the seed dispersal essential to the regeneration of forests.
Our planet is populated with plenty of bizarre and astonishing creatures. Here are three from the Bat Family ..... without the need for resorting to fiction.
Sucker-footed Bat
Red-Winged Fruit Bat
Left-Winged Ding Bat
So 2 out of 3 Bats have a useful purpose!
July 27/10
UNITED WAY! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE OUT OF YOUR UNITED MINDS! TO ASSOCIATE YOUR PROGRAMS! WITH THIS PERSON! MCGRATH!
July 27/10
Pigeons force Kings of Leon to flee Verizon stage
To bad the Seagulls and the Ducks didn't help us for Harborfest.
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/kevin-
johnson/article_220856f4-9730-11df-8c72-0017a4a78c22.html
July 27/10
Tuesday morning Obie JoBama will appear once again with his true admirers, Joy, Bwabwa, and of course Woopi, where they will all just adore him. Yes, Obie JoBama will be strutting himself onstage, head held aloof, with that smirk welded on his face. Of course all the tough questions will be asked.
How did you sleep last night?
How is the family?
Can we touch you?
What's your favorite meal?
What's your favorite TV show?
I'm sure all you libbys will be tuned in to see your patron saint of Socialism as he is being honored by the three biggest drooling hypocrites ABC can afford. All this wanna be movie star has done is parade from set ups like the view, and movies, dinner engagements, God only knows how many golf trips and vacations this dude has been on.
I hope you all don't mind me spouting off at this imbecile, but I'd like to at least do some complaining to make up for all the nut cases that did and still do blame Bushy for everything but the end of the world. That's only because it hasn't ended yet, I'm sure. Well gotta go, I just may watch some grass grow around 11:00 am Tuesday or I may go sit in front of the fire house and watch them wash and wax their cars. Whatever I do won't be to sit in front of my TV and watch a bunch of broads fight over the affection of Obie JoBama.
July 27/10
CREWS WORKED INTO THE NIGHT
CLEARING THE ROAD AND KNOCKING DOWN THE REMAINING WALLS OF ST. LOUIS'S CHURCH



SEVERAL PEOPLE QUESTIONED HOW AN
OSWEGO FIREFIGHTER'S COMPANY
GOT THE JOB OF DOING THE DEMOLITION AND CLEANUP


DPW Vehicles Waiting On East Fifth St.

Today's Quote July 26/10
"The thing you have to be prepared for is that
other people don't always dream your dream."
Linda Ronstadt
RE:” FIVE ANSWERS” JOKE (?)
Really disgusting, bad taste and just plain not that funny. Does it have to be sexual, intimate, “blue” humor to be funny? I don’t think so. Go back in the joke file and send in some jokes that are really funny and require some sophistication a bit higher than young, schoolboy humor.
Those jokes were only as bad as your mind sees them.
Roman Curia [Catholic-Hierarchy]- Mind boggling, unbelievable and no where in the Bible and never ever taught by Jesus except being false doctrine. Went to catholic schooland was taught liesand the Bible proes it.
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/country/xcur.html
July 26/10
Fwd: Fw: Two plus Two equal four. obama and his mob need to be cleared out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y
July 26/10
Partial building collapse shuts down Route 104, Harborfest activities in Oswego
Not surprised, we have a lot of buildings that should be condemned, like the one tattoo owns on West 5Th and Bridge Streets.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/partial_
building_collapse_shut.html
July 26/10
RE: "It's time for a private ambulance company,"
You're right, it is time for a private ambulance service and its also time for an honest person to step up and handle the reins of Oswego. There is only one person I have seen that even acts like he cares. He brings out the truth as to who is doing nothing and who keeps screwing up. You will probably have to get together and do a write in push as I feel this person will not go willingly but if enough of you show him your trust and dedication, he will do, this I am sure.
He has brought to light so many things that were discussed with Baron Von Bateman and all went idle, just like the man himself. I hope that this post is allowed as I know Ed, and he has more in life to handle than saving a city that last time threw him under the bus. This man is so honest, so in the know and has so much to offer. I only hope he has forgotten how little was done from his ward the last time to help him, help Oswego.
I swear, if you really want your city saved, that Ed is, and could be, the man to do it. But you will have to make him know you will have his back and show total support financially and physically. The city needs saving that's for sure, and I don't know who else you can go to. You have no choice but to start acting yourselves, or you can do exactly what the majority of you did the last few elections, sit around and bitch. It's your city, it's your money, it's your fault. Rusty
July 26/10
RE: "Conservatives ran up our nation's deficit with wars they didn't pay for, tax breaks for the rich they didn't pay for, prescription drug giveaways to Big Pharma that they didn't pay for, etc. Conservatives own this deficit."
Damn dip$hit do you ever read the paper or watch the news? Even your drive-by media have admitted this arrogant idiot has quadrupled, yeah that's right, QUADRUPLED the National Debt. You get your head out of the sand or your A$$ whichever and stop being such a profound idiot. It's bad enough the whole freakin Congress, Senate and the White House are over flowing with ignorance and stupidity. Oh Yeah!......... Kool-aid is ready
July 26/10
RE: "We have 5 ambulances because you say that is what we need for the safety of the community. Every minute those vehicles and men are not ready to leave for a call is time that the lives of the people are at risk."
I've seen them out to Rudy's a few times, I'm sure they either had a false call or doing a dry run.
July 26/10
Problems at Harborfest, Will they be kept a Secret?
For many years we have all wondered if the real lawbreaking problems at Harborfest will be exposed. They seem to hide them because they want the crowds, their money, their salaries to be paid, etc.
Well this year we had the drugged out guy from near Albany, who stole our new ambulance that didn't have locked doors outside of the hospital. There were a lot of fights, one being 30-40 guys on a street near the lake. Hear you could smell 'maryjane' and other drugs all over.
Time to get rid of this crappy fest.
July 26/10
Sunday July 52,2010
ST. LOUIS' CHURCH AT WEST FOURTH AND BRIDGE STREETS IN OSWEGO COLLAPSED SOMETIME AROUND 5:00 P.M.
8:20 PM
The Oswego Fire department Has Now Moved In It's New Quint Firetruck And All Spectators Have Been Moved Back Two Blocks. It Appears As Though They Are Going To Use Fire Hoses To Try and Bring Down The Remainder Of The Building.
A New York State Police Canine Unit is now on the scene searching for anyone who might possibly be trapped.
BREAKING NEWS
ST. LOUIS' CHURCH AT WEST FOURTH AND BRIDGE STREETS IN OSWEGO COLLAPSED SOMETIME AROUND 5:00 P.M.



I believe it was during the winter of 2006 - 2007 when a large building collapsed in the city of Fulton NY.
Shortly after that I had a discussion with mayor Bateman regarding the many vacant and derelict buildings in the city of Oswego. I made specific reference to St Louis’s and St. John’s churches and told Bateman that we needed to get building and safety dept out and check all of them before we had the same problems here.
As usual Bateman did nothing and within a year the entire back of the 1850 House collapsed. Again Bateman did nothing.
Today St. Louis ‘s Church collapsed into the eastbound lane of Rt. 104. There were several ambulances at the scene but it appeared no one was being treated for injuries at the time.
Directly across the street in East Park many Harbor Fest concessions were open and fest goers were stunned as the wood and brick structure came crashing to the ground. If this had happened when Harbor Fest was in full swing they would have been picking bodies out of the rubble.
For years the ceiling had been leaking and according to one person who had been inside the building in 2007 the plaster ceiling was falling and there was mildew everywhere. From the appearance of the rubble, water had been seeping in between the brick walls and the wooden framing members.

Bateman and his new firechief doing what they do best
NOTHING !!!

Today's Quote July 25/10
''Life's tough ... it's even tougher if you're stupid.''
John Wayne
re:Oswego Fire Chief Jeff McCrobie said he was also glad no one was hurt and the ambulance recovered. "I would like to emphasize that, at no time, were emergency medical services compromised,” he said.
Yeah, and from 10:46 a.m. to 10:55 a.m. neither he nor anyone else knew where the city’s 'NEW' ambulance was.
'I have heard from several people that they couldn't believe how noisy the NEW ambulance is. It sounds like two ambulances, not one. Who are they trying to impress? Just another toy for the OFD'
It's time for a private ambulance company, that would help with the Pension Padding here in Oswego! Just as I am typing this, the new one went down the street. I wonder who is driving, a stranger or the OFD.
Why don't they lock the doors when they remove the patients?'
July 25/10
Observation
If 'brevity is the soul of wit', doc is clearly humorless.
July 25/10
Not a "Para-legal"
Carrie Fellows in no way is any type of para-legal. She worked for Lanza to pay off legal bills allegedly. Jeff Fellows has worked on again and off again as some sort of "go for" for Lanza for a number of years. It is the closest to having a real job he has ever been. Anybody checking into the background of these two would be amazed at some of their antics.
Lanza posted on the Channel 9 news blog that they are great grandparents/parents. On the other hand he also told a jury and the news media, that Alan Jones was a good brother, and the Maxwells were good parents. So how can he be wrong in this case, he is such a good judge of character.
July 25/10
Alan Jones paralegal
Now, doesn't this just figure????
Paralegal for Alan Jones defense lawyer called to testify in murder trial | syracuse.com
She's an expert? If I'm not mistaken, she was asked to leave just about every nursing job she had.
July 25/10
RE leash law
I have 2 dogs. They are always leashed. They are "good dogs" too. It doesn't matter. Why do some people think they are above the law? Its that old "feeling of entitlement" Some people think they are entitled to do anything they want. Well, grow up and get a clue. Its about the common good. Put your dog on a leash like the rest of the world. And everyone says their dog is a good dog" until they attack.
July 25/10
McCrobie
We have 5 ambulances because you say that is what we need for the safety of the community. Every minute those vehicles and men are not ready to leave for a call is time that the lives of the people are at risk.
July 25/10
re: INQUISITION
Interesting to note that you never mentioned directly that the White House also threw Shirley Sherod under the bus. Now let's look at the bigger picture.
While many people may have acted in haste, let's not forget that the White House also jumped the gun by not viewing the whole video first. So why place blame on everyone else while excluding them? Certainly, Tom Visack must have contacted someone higher up before he made his decision to fire her. If not, then why would there be a need for Obama to personally make an apology? Wouldn't his apology have been suficient? Furthermore, it would seem obvious that the NAACP would have had access to the whole tape as well since it was recorded at one of their own conventions. Why then did they also distance themselves from her statements initially? Perhaps because of their recent racist Tea Party accusations?
In today's world of "instant news reporting" in an effort to be the first to break a story or bring something to light, it's obvious that initial reporting will often be void of ALL the facts that may present themselves at some point later on. This is by no means a reason that something shouldn't be covered in the meantime until all the facts are presented. The reasoning behind this is largely because that some facts may not surface for years, (or ever) but you can't just stay mum until they finally do surface. By keeping quiet, the facts may never surface and the news may never be reported, as the story just dissapears into thin air since nobody is reporting on it while other, newer topics put it on the back burner.
What's equally interesting to note, is that while some people blame Fox News for initially condemning what was said while not having all the information, the very same people in true hypocritical form start calling others "racists" as well from similar news clips before all the facts are in. Such an example would include the footage of someone accused of saying the '"N" word to a black congressman and spitting on him. People responded quickly to that too, while to date there is no audio recording of this actually happening despite a $100,000.00 "reward" out for evidence of such accusations. In another case, ACORN workers were clearly exposed for wrongdoing by I believe the same person who created the Sherrod video. In a less related video, where The Black Panthers are clearly white intimidating voters, we simply need no other facts as to why they were standing there with nightsticks. Should these have not been reported as well due to all the facts not being available at the time the footage was shot? I think not.
Now, since the White House also jumped the gun, it's more than likely that most people also assumed that the WH had all the facts before they made their decision, and simply trusted that they acted accordingly, and investigated further before firing her. Perhaps another hastey rush to judgement much like the Cambridge cop racial incident that led to "the Beer Summit?" It would seem so.
The point is, that despite everyones ability to "report something", there is plenty of time afterwards to refute any allegations or accusations using the same media form to do so, as well as the court system. It would therefore seem, that Fox News shouldn't be quite as guilty of "reporing it" as the person who actually "created it and misrepresented the facts intentionally". It's more than extremely unlikely that Fox News would have reported only this clip of the video knowing full well that there was more on the tape that would later surface to counter their claim. They aren't that stupid, as it would be a case of media suicide to do so.
To sum it all up, by the standards set forth in the last paragraph of your rant, it would seem that you would prefere everyone with a computer to just "sit down and shut up, perhaps being led by someone such as yourself who has an insatiable need to speak out by using the Internet to do exactly that. In fact, you even cite "editing" in your list of complaints, which seems contridictory to your whole post of knowing all the facts first, does it not? After all, If something is "edited", usually something is left out as a result. Perhaps what I fear even more is the symptomatic dangerous trend of losing our free speech right by people who choose to quell it that disagree with it. In this case, the liberals are doing exactly that in a myrid of ways, and their arch enemy Fox News is a perfect example of just such a target. Now you know what's going on, so far. Caution: More facts may arise later!
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RE: Oswego Corruption
Here are some places you should send your complaints.
Do not waste your time with the county DAs office.
Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
59 Maiden Lane
30th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10038
212-383- 2502
Office of the State Comptroller
Division of Investigations
110 State StreetAlbany, N.Y. 12236-0001
New York State Office of the Attorney General
Public Integrity Unit
120 Broadway, 22nd Floor
New York, N.Y. 10271
United States Justice Department
Organized Crime & Racketeering
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261
Federal Bureau of Investigation
James Handley Federal Building
Syracuse, N.Y. 13261
New York State Police
1220 Washington Avenue
Building 22
Albany, NY 12226-2252 New York State Police
Fulton, NY
6 East 12th Street,
Fulton, NY 13069
315-593-6194
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